'New' Maori Destroyer

Started by Valles, February 06, 2010, 12:33:05 PM

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Valles

Title is something of a misnomer; they're essentially a repeat of the 1916 boats.

DD-1918, Maori Destroyer laid down 1918 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,037 t standard; 1,279 t normal; 1,472 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   333.09 ft / 328.08 ft x 29.53 ft x 9.84 ft (normal load)
   101.52 m / 100.00 m x 9.00 m  x 3.00 m

Armament:
      4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (2x2 guns), 33.07lbs / 15.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 132 lbs / 60 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20.7" / 525 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 22,917 shp / 17,096 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 435 tons

Complement:
   106 - 138

Cost:
   £0.281 million / $1.123 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 15 tons, 1.2 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 0.3 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 661 tons, 51.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 298 tons, 23.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 278 tons, 21.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 22 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     297 lbs / 135 Kg = 9.7 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 11.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.91

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.469
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.11 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 80
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Mid (36 %):      16.40 ft / 5.00 m (8.20 ft / 2.50 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Stern:      8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Average freeboard:   11.42 ft / 3.48 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 178.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 67.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 6,281 Square feet or 584 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 65 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 130 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.93
      - Overall: 0.53
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Four ships in class:
Queen of Hours
Shadow of Fate
Gaze of Revelation
Key and Gate

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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair

TexanCowboy

God ****, those are going to have a fast turning rate... :o

Valles

The electric drive is a standard feature of modern Maori designs across all weight classes, and yes, turning ability is one of the reasons that's so. The 1918 class is 'only' competitive with its fellow destroyer designs... but I do, indeed, think that that's saying quite a bit compared to foreign vessels.
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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair

TexanCowboy

Better than your 2x6'' idea that didn't turn out so well.

maddox

I wonder why those have such a range, for a coast defence force.

Valles

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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair

maddox

In a shed, in French Polynesia, a young man is painting a large banner " welcome leberators "

Valles

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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair

Jefgte

A typical Maoria DD

Not a bad ship


Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Sachmle

Quote from: Valles on February 06, 2010, 03:08:01 PM
Plans change.

Why do you think I keep building ships that can handle up to 16" shells at range and escorts that either take it or dish it out?
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

maddox

And here is France, parking 2 obsolete predread harbor queens and a few coast guard cutters in Polynesia .

What's next, sending in an invitation?

Sachmle

Quote from: maddox on February 06, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
And here is France, parking 2 obsolete predread harbor queens and a few coast guard cutters in Polynesia .

What's next, sending in an invitation?

Be careful to put the right address on you invitation...others may think it's for them. ;)
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Valles

QuoteAnd here is France, parking 2 obsolete predread harbor queens and a few coast guard cutters in Polynesia .

What's next, sending in an invitation?

Frankly, given the demonstrated impossibility of OOC communication, I'd felt forced to consider not only the always-trivial local forces, but the overall force the French could bring to bear. Even with the mitigating factor of the relative distance of our power centers, the odds are quite poor when viewed in that light.
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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair

maddox

Valles, I'm well aware of the situation, and the intention of the peacefull Maorians.

Your DD's always had that long range, and you did explain it somewere, You have to sail around your big island, and the amount of ports ain't that plentyfull, so therefor, the long range.

Valles

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When the mother ship's cannon cracked the signal to return
The clouds were building bastions in the swirling up above
Poseidon the King and the Wind his jester
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair
Dancing with the Lightning Lady Fair