1905 - what happened

miketr · March 23, 2007, 10:57:59 AM

Will someone PM when the situtation between Iberia and New Switzerland has been made final?

Michael

P3D · March 23, 2007, 11:01:41 AM

Bad and deteriorating?

miketr · March 23, 2007, 11:03:06 AM

OK... war maybe off... Me and desert fox are having some talks...

Walter · March 23, 2007, 12:14:42 PM

QuoteWhat is the total tonnage of the Japanese fleet?

What is the total tonnage of the Japanese fleet?
Which one? The Russian Pacific Fleet version? My version? Historical version?

I miss a number of sims for the Russian Pacific Fleet, but looking at Janes as well as the 'existing' other ships, my guess would be that the 1901 Pacific fleet is 230 ships strong at 375,000 tons (Russian displacements are standard). As far as I can see, all Russian ships are >1890.
My idea is based on the data from this site...
http://homepage2.nifty.com/nishidah/e/index.htm
... (excluding the Sino-Japan/Russo-Japan war gains and losses and including a slightly modified 1903/1904 design BB to fit properly into the BB timeline armament-wise). This would give me a 207 ship strong navy at 421,069 tons (Japanese displacements are normal (so also those given below); real rough guess will put the standard at about 400,000 tons).
However, unlike the Russian fleet, that Japanese fleet has numerous vessels under construction (29 ships, 108,366 tons). That would mean that the total operational strength is 178 ships at 312,817 tons. Of those ships, 11 (25,234 tons) are <1885.
And as I have pointed out, the Russian fleet is based on 1901 figures while the Japanese fleet is based on 1906 figures.

As for the historical navy in 1906...
I would have to do some recalculations, but seeing how many capital ships that Japanese lost during the Russo-Japan war and how many they gained during the war, I would say it is of similar size as my original idea (due to the inclusion of the 1903/1904 design instead of the additional Russian vessels).

QuoteWill someone PM when the situtation between Iberia and New Switzerland has been made final?

I'm sure someone can do that once the smoke has cleared and all the survivors are leaving their shelters. :D

Ithekro · March 23, 2007, 02:27:54 PM

So what of the honorable Admiral Togo? The male version rather than his "granddaughter"? ;D

Walter · March 23, 2007, 02:33:58 PM

Who knows (depends on the final version)...
http://homepage2.nifty.com/nishidah/e/px00.htm#f004
... as for his "granddaughter"...

olekit · March 24, 2007, 08:31:20 AM

And if I against to what happend with Russia?

Ithekro · March 24, 2007, 08:46:02 AM

Oy...a new wrinkle. Just when you think everything is more or less fixed you need to get the iron back out. Einstien, I don't think, even had an idea of the fabric of time-space and the amount of ironing you need to do to get it nice enough to go out in public.

Suggestions for Issue Five: Russia?

Walter · March 24, 2007, 10:05:25 AM

Uh-oh! Back to the Drawing board, I guess. :D

Borys · March 24, 2007, 10:31:00 AM

Ahoj!
Olekit - this site has been around for a month. I believe Earl22 contacted you at least a week ago, if not two, informing about this board. You did not show up then, when we were much less advanced in geomancy. The map has been redrawn and is final, with only minor retouches possible.
For the good of the game the more active SuperPowers - France, Russia, the "E" country have been weakened or eliminated. You are wellcome to play - either continuing your Russia in the guise of Muscovy - more or less half of your previous economy, with Baltic Fleet and Arctic Squadron. Or another country.

Borys

Blooded · February 07, 2010, 03:25:30 PM

Wow! Thanks for posting the link to this Walter.

In all my 2 year wanderings I had never come across this post. I had to bump just to make sure everyone has seen it. It is bringing alot of things together which never made sense to me(I am still reading as I get a moment).

Perhaps this should be stickied?