For 1924

[P3D]

The 7" is the infamous slope. Turret side was 220mm.

[maddox]

The reason for this strange size is also documented. 1 Upgunship to the Italians with the rebored 305mm to 320mm guns.

Dunkerque was laid down earlier than the Italian rebuilts, so that's not true.

I stand corrected, it's the other way around, the old dreadnoughts were upgunned to come closer to the French 330mm armed ships.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Thank you P3D - I will modify the design to achieve 9" on the sides.
But if the ship is subject to heavy gun fire to the turret sides I'm fooked anyway ...
Borys

[P3D]

It's completely feasible to have shells coming at ~30-45* obliquity, esp. if your ship is forced to divide main battery fire for some reason.

[Borys]

Heilige Nacht, Habsburgs Battleship laid down 1924

Displacement:
   51 044 t light; 53 792 t standard; 56 203 t normal; 58 133 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   860,70 ft / 860,00 ft x 115,00 ft x 30,00 ft (normal load)
   262,34 m / 262,13 m x 35,05 m  x 9,14 m

Armament:
      12 - 16,50" / 419 mm guns (3x4 guns), 2 500,00lbs / 1 133,98kg shells, 1924 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
      12 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 1924 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 1924 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 3,50" / 88,9 mm guns in single mounts, 25,00lbs / 11,34kg shells, 1924 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 1,00lbs / 0,45kg shells, 1924 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 32 108 lbs / 14 564 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 90

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,5" / 343 mm   490,00 ft / 149,35 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   3,00" / 76 mm   370,00 ft / 112,78 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Upper:   9,00" / 229 mm   490,00 ft / 149,35 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
     Main Belt covers 88% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,50" / 38 mm   490,00 ft / 149,35 m   47,00 ft / 14,33 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15,0" / 381 mm   9,50" / 241 mm      13,5" / 343 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   1,50" / 38 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   3rd:   3,00" / 76 mm   0,50" / 13 mm      0,50" / 13 mm
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4,25" / 108 mm, Conning tower: 17,00" / 432 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 106 216 shp / 79 237 Kw = 26,00 kts
   Range 8 525nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 341 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   1 824 - 2 372

Cost:
   £16,550 million / $66,200 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 651 tons, 6,5%
   Armour: 18 373 tons, 32,7%
      - Belts: 7 108 tons, 12,6%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 278 tons, 2,3%
      - Armament: 3 421 tons, 6,1%
      - Armour Deck: 6 028 tons, 10,7%
      - Conning Tower: 537 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 3 580 tons, 6,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 24 940 tons, 44,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 160 tons, 9,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 0,9%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     70 970 lbs / 32 191 Kg = 31,6 x 16,5 " / 419 mm shells or 11,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 7,4 ft / 2,3 m
   Roll period: 17,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,663
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,48 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,33 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 2,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -2,00 ft / -0,61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      20,00 ft / 6,10 m
      - Forecastle (2%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (10%):      18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Quarterdeck (13%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Stern:      18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,02 ft / 5,49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144,1%
   Waterplane Area: 76 669 Square feet or 7 123 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 257 lbs/sq ft or 1 256 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,18
      - Longitudinal: 0,95
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Warning: Calibre too large for machine gun - 5th battery

[Nobody]

Do you actually intend to name a warship "Christmas Eve"?

[The Rock Doctor]

He named one "Strudel Head".  This would be a step up.

[P3D]

Do you actually intend to name a warship "Christmas Eve"?

"Holy night", to be precise. With this Habsburgs one cannot be sure - they took part in every major armed conflict in Nverse save the Calcutta war.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Yes, I was thinking of naming the ship "Christmass Eve". The other ship in the pair would be Ostern.
Or maybe SMS Weihnachten and SMS Ostrernacht would be more appropriate?

Pice of trivia - in Polish "Great Night" = Easter.

Borys

[ctwaterman]

Habsburg Troops fought in the Kolkata war.... :o
So all the major wars...

[Sachmle]

Habsburg Troops fought in the Kolkata war.... :o
So all the major wars...

Technically they never made it to Siam before the ceasefire, so that would be 'all the major wars' except the Dutch/RRC-Siam/DKB/Indochina war. Unless of course that is not 'major' enough.

[maddox]

The Habsburgers will make sure that that little deficit in their palmares will be erased.

[TexanCowboy]

I would have to disagree. The presense of the battleship Silgila led to the indirect sinking of three coastal battleship's, and two assault's were cancelled because of it's presence.

[Sachmle]

I would have to disagree. The presence of the battleship Siligia led to the indirect sinking of three coastal battleship's, and two assault's were canceled because of it's presence.

1) I was referring to the Landwehr, as I'm pretty sure everyone else was too

2) Siligia never sank another ship

2a) Fear is fun

[TexanCowboy]

Oh...that last motto is copywrited by the KKK. Please report to the nearest Habsburg embassy to pay tribute.

*Runs away quickly*