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General Kassar II, Esc Bb laid down 1921

Displacement:
   58.045 t light; 61.078 t standard; 64.633 t normal; 67.478 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   851,82 ft / 847,77 ft x 121,39 ft x 32,81 ft (normal load)
   259,63 m / 258,40 m x 37,00 m  x 10,00 m

Armament:
      6 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (2x3 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (2x2 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1921 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 30.400 lbs / 13.789 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   475,72 ft / 145,00 m   19,78 ft / 6,03 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   5,91" / 150 mm   475,72 ft / 145,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 86 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,76" / 70 mm   475,72 ft / 145,00 m   31,92 ft / 9,73 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   9,84" / 250 mm      13,8" / 350 mm
   2nd:   13,8" / 350 mm   9,84" / 250 mm      13,8" / 350 mm
   3rd:   2,95" / 75 mm   1,97" / 50 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 6,69" / 170 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 3 shafts, 148.878 shp / 111.063 Kw = 27,70 kts
   Range 9.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.400 tons

Complement:
   2.026 - 2.634

Cost:
   £15,123 million / $60,494 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3.800 tons, 5,9 %
   Armour: 23.338 tons, 36,1 %
      - Belts: 6.835 tons, 10,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.549 tons, 2,4 %
      - Armament: 4.535 tons, 7,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 9.941 tons, 15,4 %
      - Conning Tower: 478 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 5.127 tons, 7,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 25.030 tons, 38,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.589 tons, 10,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 750 tons, 1,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     76.679 lbs / 34.781 Kg = 26,7 x 17,9 " / 455 mm shells or 12,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
   Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 19,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,670
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,98 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,12 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 72
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Mid (50 %):      19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Stern:      19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Average freeboard:   20,10 ft / 6,13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 80.288 Square feet or 7.459 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 243 lbs/sq ft or 1.187 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,00
      - Longitudinal: 1,00
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Armor disposition as in Ocean class( except for an additional 20 mm on main deck)
Misc Weight:
2x FC :500t
L/RW/L:25 t
Seendes augen :25 t
Flag faciliteies:50 t
Starshells :50 t
Reserve:100t

miketr


Jefgte

hmmm...

About 8x455 & 22kts for a 40 000t Richmond BB


Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

maddox

5 and a half year, or ,if doubling the pricetag, 4 years of build time.

ledeper

Another brain-haemorrhage from our new naval-constructor:  :D :D

General Kassar II, Esc Bb laid down 1926

Displacement:
   63.410 t light; 66.184 t standard; 69.735 t normal; 72.575 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   917,44 ft / 913,39 ft x 121,39 ft x 34,45 ft (normal load)
   279,63 m / 278,40 m x 37,00 m  x 10,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 19,69" / 500 mm guns (3x2 guns), 3.813,98lbs / 1.729,99kg shells, 1926 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1926 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1926 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 24.543 lbs / 11.133 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   19,7" / 500 mm   426,51 ft / 130,00 m   19,78 ft / 6,03 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   9,84" / 250 mm   426,51 ft / 130,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 72 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,76" / 70 mm   426,51 ft / 130,00 m   31,92 ft / 9,73 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   19,7" / 500 mm   13,8" / 350 mm      19,7" / 500 mm
   2nd:   2,95" / 75 mm   1,97" / 50 mm            -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 7,87" / 200 mm, Conning tower: 19,69" / 500 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 3 shafts, 155.386 shp / 115.918 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 9.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.390 tons

Complement:
   2.145 - 2.789

Cost:
   £18,975 million / $75,900 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3.068 tons, 4,4 %
   Armour: 28.309 tons, 40,6 %
      - Belts: 9.235 tons, 13,2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.388 tons, 2,0 %
      - Armament: 4.719 tons, 6,8 %
      - Armour Deck: 12.248 tons, 17,6 %
      - Conning Tower: 719 tons, 1,0 %
   Machinery: 4.974 tons, 7,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 26.310 tons, 37,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.324 tons, 9,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 750 tons, 1,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     101.470 lbs / 46.026 Kg = 26,6 x 19,7 " / 500 mm shells or 17,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
   Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 19,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,639
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,52 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 72
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Mid (50 %):      19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Stern:      19,98 ft / 6,09 m
      - Average freeboard:   20,10 ft / 6,13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 84.084 Square feet or 7.812 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 240 lbs/sq ft or 1.174 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,13
      - Longitudinal: 0,97
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Armor disposition as in Ocean class( except for an additional 50 mm on main deck)(30+150+20 mm)
Misc Weight:
2x FC :500t
L/RW/L:25 t
Seendes augen :25 t
Flag faciliteies:50 t
Starshells :50 t
Reserve:100t


maddox

Do you have a type 5 slip or dock, available for 6 years?

Guinness

Well, you'd only really need the dock for about 3 years...

ctwaterman

The more accurate question would be do you have a Type 5 Dry Dock or Slip....

I know I dont but what the Hey 3 or 4 years to build the Dock and 3 years to finish the hull of the ship and launch it ????

But My it does almost appear French in design [Implying Extremely Large]
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