CSA EVIL Designs

[TexanCowboy]

I need to make a distiction between my semi serious designs and my evil designs.
So, using the galley tool at http://www.rocketpunk-observatory.com/home.htm, I created my own little galley. It comes complete with a catapult.

Evil

        591 Normal Displacement

Waterline Demensions:
   L:225 feet
   B:23 feet
   D:8 feet
   (0.50 block coefficient)
   
Maximum Speed for 120 rowers, average 1.0 per bench

20 minute dash(ram speed): 5.25 knots
2 hour chase(battle speed): 4.77 knots
8 hour cruiser(all hands rowing): 4.22 knots
Rowing in 1/3 shift's: 3.02 knots

4 archer's and a small catapult


Can I build it? Please?  ;D ;D

[Kaiser Kirk]

4 Archers!

Why mount quad Archers on such a small warship, it'sn't it a little early for so much AA?
And 120 shafts is simply out of the question !

You'll need mount and hoist for the catapult, and 100 tons fire control since you're not under destroyer rules.....

meant as a fun, missing the point, critique

[The Rock Doctor]

CSA may build as many of these as it wishes.

[ctwaterman]

The Empire of Italia would like to order a custom built one to be sent to a certain Island in the Caribean to pick up its rowing crew.... ;D :o

[TexanCowboy]

Seriously?  :o :o :o

[Jefgte]

I don't find the techno for that ship...

;)

[TexanCowboy]

An EVIL idea by the CSA Naval Ayslum. In order to contract the Gran Columbian Airships, they stuck a single 13.5'' in the middle of the ship. It fires at the balloon, and the balloon explodes in a huge explosion of explosivness.

Ignore the AA warning, please, it's just a 13.5'' gun placed at a very high angle. Recoil is actually .35
without the AA gun.


CSS Big Boom Boom, CSA  Balloon Exploder laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   3,850 t light; 4,112 t standard; 4,486 t normal; 4,785 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   445.52 ft / 435.00 ft x 46.00 ft x 15.69 ft (normal load)
   135.79 m / 132.59 m x 14.02 m  x 4.78 m

Armament:
      4 - 4.75" / 121 mm guns (2x2 guns), 53.59lbs / 24.31kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns in single mounts, 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft gun in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline amidships
      2 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1919 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1,452 lbs / 659 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   4 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.75" / 70 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   11.50 ft / 3.51 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   0.50" / 13 mm      1.50" / 38 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      2.00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21,850 shp / 16,300 Kw = 25.02 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 674 tons

Complement:
   273 - 356

Cost:
   £0.875 million / $3.502 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 182 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 717 tons, 16.0 %
      - Belts: 393 tons, 8.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 60 tons, 1.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 247 tons, 5.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 814 tons, 18.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,986 tons, 44.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 636 tons, 14.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 151 tons, 3.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,472 lbs / 2,482 Kg = 102.1 x 4.8 " / 121 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
   Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 14.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.93
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.86 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 24.63 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.94 ft / 6.99 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   14.60 ft / 4.45 m
      - Mid (35 %):      14.60 ft / 4.45 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.60 ft / 4.45 m
      - Stern:      14.60 ft / 4.45 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.10 ft / 4.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,332 Square feet or 1,239 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 452 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.71
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Warning: Calibre too large for QF, AA or DP gun - 2nd battery

[Walter]

Not as evil as my idea of a coastal bombardment ship disguised as cargoship with this in its cargohold to pound the enemy. :)

[Guinness]

why would you need such a big gun to kill something as fragile as an airship?

[TexanCowboy]

But I'm actually considering building mine...

"Sir, that CSA cruiser thing is aiming that center gun at us again!"

"Don't worry about it, it can't hurt us. What can a 50 pound gun do to us at such a high elevation?"

"Sir, I'm beginning to think that's not a 50 pounder..."

"Why?"

"Because of THAT...LOOK OUT!!!"

(Airship explodes in firey explosion, lands on Awesomesauce, explodes that in firey explosion."


EDIT: Because the bigger shell has a bigger explosion range and only requires one hit to take down?

[Walter]

why would you need such a big gun to kill something as fragile as an airship?

Who knows? Maybe the airship will deflate out of sheer terror when this gun is aimed at it. :D

[maddox]

I see the crew loading this BIG GUN by ramming the bags, and pooring down the cutlery in the barrel.

Death by Spoon.

[TexanCowboy]

LOL...there's a reason I have Speculative designs, and EVIL designs. One is for the times where I honestly can't control myself. Another is for the semi-serious times.

[Desertfox]

A long barrel 8" smoothbore firing, fin stabilized, timed shotgun shells would probably be a better idea. Or 50 tons for a sopwith pup...

[TexanCowboy]

25 tons...It's called the Cessna Pigeon in this timeline. http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=4503.msg51616#msg51616