A few H2/18 Japanese ships...

[Walter]

Normally I would have built that CSA BB, but they chickened out of the deal so Japan will be looking at their own fleet. Besides a few more Hinoki class destroyers being laid down, a number of TB-100 class torpedoboats will be constructed.


TB-100, Japan Torpedoboat Class 1 laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   500 t light; 518 t standard; 612 t normal; 688 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   252.47 ft / 250.00 ft x 21.00 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)
   76.95 m / 76.20 m x 6.40 m  x 3.05 m

Armament:
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
      20 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm guns (2x10 guns), 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 41 lbs / 18 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   6 - 17.7" / 450 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 17,159 shp / 12,801 Kw = 30.50 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 170 tons

Complement:
   60 - 79

Cost:
   £0.134 million / $0.535 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 0.8%
   Machinery: 322 tons, 52.7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 156 tons, 25.5%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 112 tons, 18.3%
   Miscellaneous weights: 17 tons, 2.7%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     131 lbs / 59 Kg = 9.7 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.76

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.408
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   8.75 ft / 2.67 m
      - Mid (50%):      8.75 ft / 2.67 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   8.75 ft / 2.67 m
      - Stern:      8.75 ft / 2.67 m
      - Average freeboard:   9.17 ft / 2.80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 179.7%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 39.6%
   Waterplane Area: 3,247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 46%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 109 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 0.56
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Max speed 33 knots

[Walter]

Tsurumi, Japan seaplane carrier laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   3,000 t light; 3,104 t standard; 3,762 t normal; 4,288 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   388.01 ft / 380.00 ft x 45.00 ft x 14.00 ft (normal load)
   118.26 m / 115.82 m x 13.72 m  x 4.27 m

Armament:
     4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
     4 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns in single mounts, 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
     8 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     20 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm guns (2x10 guns), 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 238 lbs / 108 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.50" / 64 mm   250.00 ft / 76.20 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 101% of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 0.80" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 25,194 shp / 18,795 Kw = 26.00 kts
   Range 7,100nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,185 tons

Complement:
   239 - 312

Cost:
   £0.523 million / $2.092 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 30 tons, 0.8%
   Armour: 471 tons, 12.5%
      - Belts: 264 tons, 7.0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0%
      - Armament: 15 tons, 0.4%
      - Armour Deck: 177 tons, 4.7%
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.4%
   Machinery: 939 tons, 25.0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,191 tons, 31.6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 762 tons, 20.2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 370 tons, 9.8%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,543 lbs / 2,061 Kg = 86.2 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   13.72 ft / 4.18 m
      - Mid (50%):      13.72 ft / 4.18 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   13.72 ft / 4.18 m
      - Stern:      13.72 ft / 4.18 m
      - Average freeboard:   14.38 ft / 4.38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.5%
   Waterplane Area: 11,934 Square feet or 1,109 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 315 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.47
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform


100 tons ---- Fire Control
50 tons ----- Radar and Remote-Hearing Devices
25 tons ----- Long Range Wireless
25 tons ----- Backup Long Range Wireless
10 tons ----- Backup Short Range Wireless
10 tons ----- Climatization
10 tons ----- Extra Generators
100 tons ---- 4 Planes
10 tons ----- Crane
10 tons ----- Extra Pumps
4 tons ------ 1600 extra 57mm rounds (total 600 per gun)
1.5 tons ---- 6600 extra 1" rounds (total 1025 per gun)
0.5 tons ---- 25400 extra 0.45" rounds (total 12900 rounds per gattling)
14 tons ----- Reserve.
370 tons total

[Walter]

Correct one...

Kongo, Japan Cruiser Class 1 laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   12,694 t light; 13,295 t standard; 14,935 t normal; 16,247 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   611.28 ft / 600.00 ft x 66.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
   186.32 m / 182.88 m x 20.12 m  x 6.71 m

Armament:
     6 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (3x2 guns), 500.00lbs / 226.80kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1918 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      20 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm guns (2x10 guns), 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 3,508 lbs / 1,591 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   450.00 ft / 137.16 m   9.75 ft / 2.97 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115% of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      2.00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.25" / 32 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 107,292 shp / 80,040 Kw = 31.50 kts
   Range 7,800nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,952 tons

Complement:
   675 - 878

Cost:
   £2.744 million / $10.978 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 438 tons, 2.9%
   Armour: 1,957 tons, 13.1%
      - Belts: 723 tons, 4.8%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0%
      - Armament: 525 tons, 3.5%
      - Armour Deck: 670 tons, 4.5%
      - Conning Tower: 39 tons, 0.3%
   Machinery: 3,997 tons, 26.8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,561 tons, 37.2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,241 tons, 15.0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 740 tons, 5.0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,371 lbs / 6,065 Kg = 26.7 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 14.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31.00 ft / 9.45 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (50%):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Stern:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.72 ft / 6.93 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115.0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 179.8%
   Waterplane Area: 28,963 Square feet or 2,691 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.55
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


250 tons ---- Fire Control
50 tons ----- Radar and Remote-Hearing Devices
25 tons ----- Long Range Wireless
25 tons ----- Backup Long Range Wireless
10 tons ----- Backup Short Range Wireless
100 tons ---- Flag facilities
15 tons ----- Climatization
15 tons ----- Extra Generators
75 tons ----- Planes
10 tons ----- Crane
15 tons ----- Extra Pumps
50 tons ----- Night fighting Equipment
19 tons ----- 800 120mm rounds extra (total 250 per gun)
7.5 tons ---- 1200 3" rounds extra (total 350 per gun)
1.5 tons ---- 6400 1" rounds extra (total 1000 per gun)
0.5 tons ---- 25400 0.45 rounds extra (total 14200 per gattling gun)
81.5 tons --- Reserves
750 tons total

[Walter]

Akagi, Japan Cruiser Class 1 laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   36,300 t light; 37,833 t standard; 40,564 t normal; 42,748 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   870.74 ft / 856.00 ft x 94.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
   265.40 m / 260.91 m x 28.65 m  x 9.75 m

Armament:
     8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
     6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
     6 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns in single mounts, 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1918 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
     40 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm guns (4x10 guns), 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 14,250 lbs / 6,463 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 90

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   549.54 ft / 167.50 m   14.11 ft / 4.30 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 99% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.57" / 40 mm   549.54 ft / 167.50 m   29.86 ft / 9.10 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.8" / 375 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      13.8" / 350 mm
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -         0.79" / 20 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3.54" / 90 mm, Conning tower: 14.76" / 375 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 139,999 shp / 104,439 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 11,112nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,915 tons

Complement:
   1,428 - 1,857

Cost:
   £6.994 million / $27.976 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,781 tons, 4.4%
   Armour: 12,793 tons, 31.5%
      - Belts: 4,504 tons, 11.1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 956 tons, 2.4%
      - Armament: 3,272 tons, 8.1%
      - Armour Deck: 3,686 tons, 9.1%
      - Conning Tower: 376 tons, 0.9%
   Machinery: 5,216 tons, 12.9%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,510 tons, 38.2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,263 tons, 10.5%
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,000 tons, 2.5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     50,705 lbs / 22,999 Kg = 30.0 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 6.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.551
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.11 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.26 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31.60 ft / 9.63 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Mid (50%):      21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Stern:      21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.45 ft / 6.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.5%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.4%
   Waterplane Area: 56,228 Square feet or 5,224 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 914 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


250 tons ---- Main Fire Control
250 tons ---- Backup Fire Control
50 tons ----- Radar and Remote-Hearing Devices
25 tons ----- Long Range Wireless
25 tons ----- Backup Long Range Wireless
10 tons ----- Backup Short Range Wireless
100 tons ---- Flag facilities
15 tons ----- Climatization
15 tons ----- Extra Generators
75 tons ----- Planes
10 tons ----- Crane
15 tons ----- Extra Pumps
50 tons ----- Night fighting Equipment
46 tons ----- 1920 120mm rounds extra (total 250 per gun)
10 tons ----- 1560 3" rounds extra (total 350 per gun)
8 tons ------ 3060 57mm rounds extra (total 600 per gun)
1 tons ------ 52400 0.45 rounds extra (total 14000 per gattling gun)
45 tons ----- Reserves
1000 tons total

[TexanCowboy]

Start where I start, I see.  ;D. Hmm, compared to my own design for the twenties, it is slightly smaller, much faster, but with very bad armerment.

[Jefgte]

Akagi a cruiser... Hmmmmmm


IMO, That is a futur carrier  :D  :D  :D


Jef  ;)

[mentat]

interesting to compare Akagi with the discussion on UNK Hood BC - Akagi shows can get 30 knots with 140k shp - although she is very narrow beam to get there - i think stab + steadiness suffer quite a bit

she looks good as a BBC (Fast BB) - to convert to Carrier she would need bulges i think

[Kaiser Kirk]

Actually I find her interesting to compare to the OTL Queen Elizabeth class.
Beam is wider by 4 feet, hp nearly doublt, speed is 5 knots higher, laydown is 6 years later, range is double, no casements, tons more AA, thicker decks, slightly thicker belt, displacement 50% more, cost in pounds is about doubled.

[Tanthalas]

interesting to compare Akagi with the discussion on UNK Hood BC - Akagi shows can get 30 knots with 140k shp - although she is very narrow beam to get there - i think stab + steadiness suffer quite a bit

she looks good as a BBC (Fast BB) - to convert to Carrier she would need bulges i think

one hit and that .50 in steadiness becomes a .49, I like to have some reserve in my ships...

[Walter]

Hmm, compared to my own design for the twenties, it is slightly smaller, much faster, but with very bad armerment.

Depends on which design you use to compare to your own. Also I made an error with the Kongo design and noticed that there was quite a drop in HS when I changed the engines from 1920 to 1916... so it is only natural that a 1920s design that is slower would be better than a fast 1916 engined design.

Akagi a cruiser... Hmmmmmm

Well I consider the Battlecruiser to be some sort of cruiser and historically a few of the older Japanese Battlecruisers were originally designated a s Cruiser Class 1, so I did the same for the Akagi. :)

IMO, That is a futur carrier

OTL it was... Here. I'm not sure...

interesting to compare Akagi with the discussion on UNK Hood BC - Akagi shows can get 30 knots with 140k shp

I had a slower, wider design with more armor planned for 1920 or 1921. With that discussion, I decided to see what I could get and this was the result. 30 knots and it did not even require 140,000 shp to get to that speed. ;D

although she is very narrow beam to get there - i think stab + steadiness suffer quite a bit

Well, trim tells the story there. :)

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41

tons more AA

Like I said in the other thread, only the 57mm guns are there for AA purposes.

one hit and that .50 in steadiness becomes a .49, I like to have some reserve in my ships...

Some people have a bit of a problem with a stability <1.1. I worked very hard on the design to get it at 1.1 and now they complain about the 50% steadiness. It's never good enough for some. :D

[Borys]

Ahoj!
As "fire platforms" go, the Akagi is sub-par. I personally would not build anything "dakka-dakka" without a 60% rating, and preferably 70%. But it is up to the owner. 
BTW - I believe that taking in water by the Akagi would IMPROVE her fireplatformness - and degrade her "stability" rating.

Borys

[Walter]

If I can't get it to 70%, I don't bother with it and usually shift is a bit more toward stability or just keep the trim as it is.

[Kaiser Kirk]

one hit and that .50 in steadiness becomes a .49, I like to have some reserve in my ships...

Some people have a bit of a problem with a stability <1.1. I worked very hard on the design to get it at 1.1 and now they complain about the 50% steadiness. It's never good enough for some. :D

Heh thats what I was thinking. I used to view numbers over as "excess" and try to get them down to 1.0 and 50.
After all, the ship has engineering tolerances built in and Survivability numbers listed.  But the counter flooding argument led me to up stability to 1.05 to 1.1.  Steadiness, I just look to keep 50..or 70.