Glorious French battlecruiser

[TexanCowboy]

3 triple turrets, then?

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Some countries do not use triples. France is one of them.
God frowns down on turrets with odd number of barrels ...
Borys

[TexanCowboy]

But the Iowa was a very lucky ship.  :D

I don't like quads, but triples are amazing.

[Kaiser Kirk]

But the Iowa was a very lucky ship.  :D

I don't like quads, but triples are amazing.

Missouri however, ran hard aground :)

I find I really prefer twins, tolerate triples, and generally frown on quads.
I know they are "supposed" to be more efficient, but they have several hidden negatives.

However, I have a couple draft quad turreted ships in Bavaria's possible ships folder. There's just a fair bit of development to get there.

[maddox]

Cheap, fast, agile, and a rain of steel.

Duquesne, French Heavy Cruiser laid down 1917 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   17.499 t light; 18.307 t standard; 20.446 t normal; 22.157 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   674,21 ft / 670,93 ft x 82,02 ft x 27,89 ft (normal load)
   205,50 m / 204,50 m x 25,00 m  x 8,50 m

Armament:
      8 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns (3 mounts), 705,48lbs / 320,00kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (6x2 guns), 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (1x2 guns), 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
      2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 6.949 lbs / 3.152 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,00" / 178 mm   389,14 ft / 118,61 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 89% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,00" / 178 mm   4,00" / 102 mm      7,00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 7,00" / 178 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 97.489 shp / 72.727 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 8.525nm at 15,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.849 tons

Complement:
   854 - 1.111

Cost:
   £3,233 million / $12,931 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 782 tons, 3,8%
   Armour: 4.080 tons, 20,0%
      - Belts: 1.471 tons, 7,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 1.179 tons, 5,8%
      - Armour Deck: 1.317 tons, 6,4%
      - Conning Tower: 113 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 3.632 tons, 17,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8.605 tons, 42,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.947 tons, 14,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 2,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     25.555 lbs / 11.592 Kg = 40,3 x 10,8 " / 275 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 16,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,77
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,466
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25,90 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Forecastle (22%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (20%):   12,47 ft / 3,80 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,15 ft / 6,45 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,3%
   Waterplane Area: 35.585 Square feet or 3.306 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 159 lbs/sq ft or 775 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,60
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

2 T3 275 and 1 T2 275 superfing

400 tons Misc Weight
250 tons FC
25 tons ERADe
25 ton Long range Marconi
50 ton Commanders quarters
50 ton crew comfort

[Sachmle]

Cheap, fast, agile, and a rain of steel.

Oh to be French, were 17.5k Cruisers are CHEAP.

[maddox]

Compared to Montmedie Kaiser Sam, compared to Montmedie.

[Walter]

I don't like quads, but triples are amazing.

If your CSA is like that as well then I expect the CSA-Japan relations to be as good as new in no time. :D

Missouri however, ran hard aground :)

And what about Wisconsin's collision with Eaton?
And Iowa's turret explosion in 1989?
And what of Illinois and Kentucky? They never even made it to the end of construction.

Did anything bad happen to the New Jersey? If not then that one is the only lucky ship of the Iowa class. :)

[Logi]

But quads are awesome! Although I don't really like how wide the beam has to be as a result.

[Walter]

<==== Member of the Anti Main Gun Quad Mount Society ;D

[TexanCowboy]

<===== Member of the Triples are awesome, Twins are alright, and Quads are ok if they are arranged in a 24 gun ship club.

<===== Member of the Fillopino Powder Keg club.  ;D

[The Rock Doctor]

Anything is good, so long as I have enough of them.  But I'm partial to twins and quads if only because they work better for me in MSPaint.

[Sachmle]

<===== Member of Twins for anything larger than 10" and triples are OK for smaller, Quads are the Devil Club.