Graf Zeppelin Esc carrier

Started by ledeper, November 12, 2009, 12:54:10 PM

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ledeper

Graf Zeppelin, Esc carrier laid down 1919

Displacement:
   11.507 t light; 11.816 t standard; 14.024 t normal; 15.791 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557,45 ft / 552,82 ft x 72,18 ft (Bulges 78,74 ft) x 22,97 ft (normal load)
   169,91 m / 168,50 m x 22,00 m (Bulges 24,00 m)  x 7,00 m

Armament:
      8 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30,51lbs / 13,84kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 252 lbs / 114 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 56.448 shp / 42.110 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 8.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.974 tons

Complement:
   643 - 837

Cost:
   £1,549 million / $6,195 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 31 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 2.005 tons, 14,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4.471 tons, 31,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.517 tons, 17,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5.000 tons, 35,7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19.619 lbs / 8.899 Kg = 643,0 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,03
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 18,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,95

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,491
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,02 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Stern:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   26,25 ft / 8,00 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 205,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 26.370 Square feet or 2.450 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 151 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 484 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,91
      - Longitudinal: 2,36
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

20 aeroplanes(12 tbo+6 figthers+2 bo)+6 Spares ( 4 tbo,2fi)

Desertfox

Why exacly is the ESC naming a carrier after the preeminent Swiss airship designer?
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

The Rock Doctor

One assumes he does not know you co-opted him.

Sachmle

Quote from: Desertfox on November 12, 2009, 07:27:31 PM
Why exacly is the ESC naming a carrier after the preeminent Swiss airship designer?

WTF? Why would Zeppelin live in NS when there is/was a perfectly happy Germany South (DKB) to live in?
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

The Rock Doctor

Because it's easier for Foxy than to think of an original name.

Desertfox

Considering that the ESC's Airship Tech is 1898 Baseline , I don't see why he would name a ship after von Zeppelin even if the count had stayed in the Baltic Confederation.

As for why NS, I stole way back in N-verse ver 1.0, and also he is from Konstanz which borders Switzerland. Close enough to be stealable.  
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

The Rock Doctor

Regarding the ship itself - it has a lot of miscellaneous weight for its meager airgroup, and I'd suggest trimming her back down to 70% steadiness to improve on the stability.

Kaiser Kirk

#7
Quote from: Desertfox on November 12, 2009, 07:37:44 PM
Considering that the ESC's Airship Tech is 1898 Baseline , I don't see why he would name a ship after von Zeppelin even if the count had stayed in the Baltic Confederation.

As for why NS, I stole way back in N-verse ver 1.0, and also he is from Konstanz which borders Switzerland. Close enough to be stealable.  

And while folks were out I stole him back to his homeland. Konstanz is in the Grand Duchy of Baden, not the ESC, not old Swiss, not New Swiss, and certainly not DKB. His Father was a minister of Wuttemberg, he was in the Wuttemberg army and served as a representitive of Wuttemberg in Berlin. Wuttemberg and Baden and Swiss are all in Bavaria.... Bavaria has perfectly fine Zeppelin tech. :)

Edit :  Hmm, looks like I should have included a funeral for him in my last post...d. March 1917
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Walter

... but this is Navalism. He could well be around for another decade or two here but that is up to you.

Borys

Ahoj!
Quote from: Kaiser Kirk on November 13, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
And while folks were out I stole him back to his homeland.
LOL!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

miketr

I have a silly thought...  How about people just makeup some names?  The history of the world is so different that none of these people would have been born anyways.

Michael

Walter

QuoteThe history of the world is so different that none of these people would have been born anyways.
... or they are around but do something completely different from what they did historically. Zeppelin could be a world famous painter or he could be a shoe store employee no one has ever heard of.

I borrow a few historical ones and I take some fictional ones from movies, anime/manga or comic books. With a few historical ones, I change their name slightly when I know that the person is used by another nation as well (like changing Aleksandr Vasiliyevich Kolchak to Aleksei Vladimirovich Kolchak; as indicated in one of my more recent short events, the two are related). If I were to use Zeppelin for something in Japan, I would give him a different name. Instead of Ferdinand Graf von Zeppelin, I would be using something like Friedrich Freiherr von Zeppelin.

maddox

Quote from: miketr on November 13, 2009, 04:59:30 AM
I have a silly thought...  How about people just makeup some names?  The history of the world is so different that none of these people would have been born anyways.

Michael

I use a combination of make up names, Frenchified names of people doing that kind of job/ or were at the location  and historical figures that are proven, but adaptable.

Logi

I used historical figures when I can, but most my people are fictional. Hard to find a historical person of any significance from China in this time period.

Kaiser Kirk

I like history and backstory, I like knowing how things went from how it was to how it IS.  When I was considering the Mughals, I wound up writing a 1500 year timeline linking the current dynasty directly to the ancient Sassinids, and thus a claim to be the rightful rulers of Persia.

One of the things that I found attractive about Bavaria was the setting, including the people. Some of the first things I did when I started was research the companies and people I got to "play with".  Right now I've got the lineage of the Wettins and Wittelsbachs partially written up, which I fully expect everyone to ignore, but I find it of interest. 

I can make up folks, or Germanize names- see my last news, but I thought it would be neat to have the historical figures at my disposal, kinda like my cool toys, so I find it rather annoying to discover others lay claim. 

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest