Second Caliphate Speculative Design Studies

Started by Guinness, October 27, 2009, 02:41:28 PM

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Guinness

I could probably add some freeboard, but since she's designed to fight from a standstill, I wasn't worried about it too much. Rather I was trying to minimize the vertical target presented to the enemy. The spots I have in mind aren't terribly rough, unless there's a large storm or something, but with her sufficient reserve buoyancy, as long as all hatches are dogged, I think she'd be alright.

Carthaginian

Oh, I know why the 4' freeboard... but that means that on the average day in Mobile Bay- at a standstill- you'd generally be getting wet if you stood on the deck edges.

I've experimented with similar designs for the CSA from time to time- especially for Hampton Roads- but I can never bring myself to do it... I just keep seeing the picture in my head of the 1890's battle monitor crossing the Pacific and knowing that if it might could maybe be done, someone is going to order these kinds of ships to do it eventually. ;)

Now, I like the torpedo barge idea... might have to resurrect that one myself.
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Guinness

Well, with 300ihp this thing isn't getting far on it's own.

I'd rather had a vision of the low deck, surmounted by a turret on a significantly higher barbette. Around the barbette would be a raised flying bridge type structure, and behind it would be a built up superstructure where the men would usually live and work. Atop that would be some sort of flying bridge.

So yeah, down on the weather deck would mainly be anchor and chain handling gear, etc. It wouldn't really be where anyone would hang out.

Ithekro

I'd suggest the British World War One versions for a monitor, like the Terror or Erebus.

Guinness

The Erebus class is quite a bit bigger, at 8000t normal, than what I have in mind. They also draw a bit more water. This ships would certainly be much closer to American monitors, though carrying much bigger guns.

The RN ships had a different mission too: naval gunfire support. These are meant to supplement or stand in for shore based coast defense. I believe the different missions can drive different designs.

Guinness

Still groping for what sort of capital ship to build, if any are to be built. I spent some time this morning trying to update the existing Ottoman BCs, the oldest of which is due for overhaul soon. My conclusion is that not much can be done economically.

So rather than build faster ships, I figured I might as well just stick to 25 knots as a battleline speed, and design the smallest possible ship that could ship a useful number of the new 305mm gun with adequate armor at that speed. Can even a modern BC hunt these ships down? Sure. But hopefully in numbers of 4 or more, they'd at least be a tough kill.

Layout is more or less like HMS Tiger.

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1922 Capital Ship (8 guns), Ottoman Empire Capital Ship laid down 1922 (Engine 1920)

Displacement:
   19,600 t light; 20,503 t standard; 21,369 t normal; 22,062 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.76 ft / 552.82 ft x 85.30 ft x 28.84 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.50 m x 26.00 m  x 8.79 m

Armament:
      8 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (4x2 guns), 893.97lbs / 405.50kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 0.51" / 13.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.07lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,359 lbs / 3,791 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   218.18 ft / 66.50 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   146.00 ft / 44.50 m   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.97" / 50 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   32.48 ft / 9.90 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   3rd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 11.02" / 280 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 56,000 shp / 41,776 Kw = 25.04 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,558 tons

Complement:
   883 - 1,148

Cost:
   £4.958 million / $19.832 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,021 tons, 4.8 %
   Armour: 8,371 tons, 39.2 %
      - Belts: 3,917 tons, 18.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 792 tons, 3.7 %
      - Armament: 2,041 tons, 9.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,438 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 183 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,958 tons, 9.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,797 tons, 36.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,769 tons, 8.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 453 tons, 2.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     30,567 lbs / 13,865 Kg = 35.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 5.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 16.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.48 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11.20 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.93 ft / 7.60 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   24.28 ft / 7.40 m
      - Mid (66 %):      23.62 ft / 7.20 m (15.75 ft / 4.80 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.91 ft / 4.85 m
      - Stern:      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.27 ft / 6.48 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,910 Square feet or 3,057 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 160 lbs/sq ft or 779 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.89
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Misc Weight:
250t: Firecontrol
32t: 4x21" Torpedo tubes each with 4 reloads
25t: Long Range Wireless
100t: Flag Facilities
46t: Reserve

Sachmle

For under 20,000t she's a steal. Anything that can kill it outright is out of it's weight class, anything in it's weight class is fair game. So she's not the fastest girl at the ball, she'd still turn heads.
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Guinness

Thinking about building this, it occurs to me that I'd have to wait probably until 1923 before I'd have the engine tech, so here's a version with 1916 engines. Costs about 300tons. A half sister might follow with lighter machinery.

Quote1922 Capital Ship (8 guns) 1916 Engines, Ottoman Empire Capital Ship laid down 1922 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   19,900 t light; 20,812 t standard; 21,808 t normal; 22,606 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.73 ft / 552.82 ft x 85.63 ft x 28.64 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.50 m x 26.10 m  x 8.73 m

Armament:
      8 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (4x2 guns), 893.97lbs / 405.50kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 0.51" / 13.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.07lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,359 lbs / 3,791 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   339.57 ft / 103.50 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   213.25 ft / 65.00 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   164.04 ft / 50.00 m   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
     Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.97" / 50 mm   339.57 ft / 103.50 m   32.48 ft / 9.90 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   3rd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 11.02" / 280 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 57,000 shp / 42,522 Kw = 25.03 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,793 tons

Complement:
   896 - 1,166

Cost:
   £5.050 million / $20.200 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,021 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 8,475 tons, 38.9 %
      - Belts: 3,982 tons, 18.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 803 tons, 3.7 %
      - Armament: 2,043 tons, 9.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,461 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 185 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,124 tons, 9.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,843 tons, 36.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,908 tons, 8.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 437 tons, 2.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     30,779 lbs / 13,961 Kg = 35.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 5.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.563
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.26 ft / 7.70 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Mid (63 %):      23.95 ft / 7.30 m (16.08 ft / 4.90 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.24 ft / 4.95 m
      - Stern:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.40 ft / 6.52 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,442 Square feet or 3,107 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 159 lbs/sq ft or 775 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.87
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight:
250t: Firecontrol
32t: 4x21" Torpedo tubes each with 4 reloads
25t: Long Range Wireless
100t: Flag Facilities
50t: Reserve

Guinness

Aaand just to compare, a flush-decked version. Going to a flush deck sacrifices some seakeeping, but also saves some weight, and actually gets the secondary battery further up out of the water. Secondary belt is higher than freeboard to cover the casemate battery.

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1922 Capital Ship (8 guns) 1916 Engines Flush, Ottoman Empire Capital Ship laid down 1922 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   19,700 t light; 20,621 t standard; 21,612 t normal; 22,405 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.73 ft / 552.82 ft x 85.79 ft x 28.33 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.50 m x 26.15 m  x 8.63 m

Armament:
      8 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (4x2 guns), 893.97lbs / 405.50kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 0.51" / 13.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.07lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,558 lbs / 3,882 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   346.13 ft / 105.50 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   211.61 ft / 64.50 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   193.57 ft / 59.00 m   18.70 ft / 5.70 m
     Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.97" / 50 mm   346.13 ft / 105.50 m   32.48 ft / 9.90 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   3rd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 11.02" / 280 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 57,000 shp / 42,522 Kw = 25.06 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,784 tons

Complement:
   890 - 1,158

Cost:
   £5.090 million / $20.359 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,047 tons, 4.8 %
   Armour: 8,543 tons, 39.5 %
      - Belts: 4,191 tons, 19.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 819 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armament: 1,885 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,464 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 184 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,124 tons, 9.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,553 tons, 34.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,912 tons, 8.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 433 tons, 2.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27,791 lbs / 12,606 Kg = 32.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.563
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.60 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Mid (57 %):      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   17.22 ft / 5.25 m
      - Stern:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.13 ft / 5.83 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 132.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,506 Square feet or 3,113 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 157 lbs/sq ft or 765 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.64
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Warning: Armour belts too tall for hull

Misc Weight:
250t: Firecontrol
32t: 4x21" Torpedo tubes each with 4 reloads
25t: Long Range Wireless
100t: Flag Facilities
46t: Reserve

P3D

The Tiger-like turret arrangement should be simmed with majority forward (of amidship break).

I'd get rid of the torpedo tubes.
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Guinness

Quote from: P3D on July 24, 2010, 07:24:37 PM
The Tiger-like turret arrangement should be simmed with majority forward (of amidship break).

Ok, why? I've tried it a bunch of different ways, but came to the conclusion that centerline-distributed worked, because if I moved the midbreak forward of 50% the barbette armor weight dropped quite a bit. In fact it dropped as much as it increased if I'd arranged the turrets equal fore and aft with 2 mounts superfiring (with the midbreak where it is). This led me to the conclusion that SS had figured it out.

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I'd get rid of the torpedo tubes.

Yeah, you always hate "capital ship" (I use quotes as at 20k tons, this ship barely qualifies anymore) torpedo tubes.

At any rate, if this is how this has to be, the Flush-Decker is looking better...:

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1922 Capital Ship (8 guns) 1916 Engines For P3D, Ottoman Empire Capital Ship laid down 1922 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   20,000 t light; 20,922 t standard; 21,922 t normal; 22,721 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.76 ft / 552.82 ft x 85.79 ft x 28.73 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.50 m x 26.15 m  x 8.76 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 893.97lbs / 405.50kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      2 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 893.97lbs / 405.50kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all amidships
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,358 lbs / 3,791 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   324.80 ft / 99.00 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   228.02 ft / 69.50 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   157.48 ft / 48.00 m   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
     Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.97" / 50 mm   324.80 ft / 99.00 m   32.48 ft / 9.90 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   3rd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -         2.76" / 70 mm
   4th:   3.94" / 100 mm         -         2.76" / 70 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 11.02" / 280 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 57,000 shp / 42,522 Kw = 25.01 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,799 tons

Complement:
   900 - 1,171

Cost:
   £5.059 million / $20.237 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,021 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 8,387 tons, 38.3 %
      - Belts: 3,907 tons, 17.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 768 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armament: 2,061 tons, 9.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,464 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 186 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 2,124 tons, 9.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,087 tons, 36.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,922 tons, 8.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 381 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     32,412 lbs / 14,702 Kg = 37.4 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 5.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.563
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11.20 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.93 ft / 7.60 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   24.28 ft / 7.40 m
      - Mid (67 %):      23.62 ft / 7.20 m (15.75 ft / 4.80 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.91 ft / 4.85 m
      - Stern:      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.40 ft / 6.52 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,506 Square feet or 3,113 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 163 lbs/sq ft or 798 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 1.93
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Misc Weight:
250t: Firecontrol
25t: Long Range Wireless
80t: Flag Facilities
34t: Reserve

Carthaginian

A nice "light BC" or "Slow AC."

A good 'capital ship' for the Ottomans... though I don't know if they need one.
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You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
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We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

P3D

Quote from: Guinness on July 24, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
I'd get rid of the torpedo tubes.

I just don't see why you would need it on a battleship, which is supposed to have their own screens. Unless one is already researching the next level of torpedo technology.
On a cruiser that is supposed to fight alone and engage merchants, rather.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
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Carthaginian

For a 'capital ship' that is likely to be engaging in protected waters or tight straits, I'd say torps do warrant due consideration as viable weapons. After all, if your opponent has to get close because of terrain, you may as well plan to have a surprise or two.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Sachmle

Even if only as a distracting weapon, we haven't had the same experience as OTL as far as hits to submerged torpedo rooms causing major flooding. I seem to only recall once that has happened, and it was to me due to a mine hit.
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