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ledeper

October 05, 2009, 03:07:27 PM
Raubvogel class, Esc Bb laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   34.560 t light; 36.605 t standard; 39.134 t normal; 41.157 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,33 ft / 716,86 ft x 108,27 ft x 27,07 ft (normal load)
   219,56 m / 218,50 m x 33,00 m  x 8,25 m

Armament:
      9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      20 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (10x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 20.310 lbs / 9.212 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   446,19 ft / 136,00 m   14,11 ft / 4,30 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   446,19 ft / 136,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   26,12 ft / 7,96 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3,94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 90.809 shp / 67.744 Kw = 26,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.552 tons

Complement:
   1.390 - 1.808

Cost:
   £8,325 million / $33,301 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.539 tons, 6,5 %
   Armour: 12.801 tons, 32,7 %
      - Belts: 4.607 tons, 11,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.023 tons, 2,6 %
      - Armament: 2.539 tons, 6,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 4.338 tons, 11,1 %
      - Conning Tower: 293 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 3.383 tons, 8,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15.337 tons, 39,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.574 tons, 11,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     51.701 lbs / 23.451 Kg = 25,5 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 7,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25
   Metacentric height 8,5 ft / 2,6 m
   Roll period: 15,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Mid (70 %):      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 59.565 Square feet or 5.534 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 200 lbs/sq ft or 979 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,13
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

As usual belt 10 dg outward slope

For Baltic operation and maybe also Black see ops (Got that pesky Romanians 8) 8)9

Tanthalas

#1
October 05, 2009, 03:21:02 PM
If you plan to kick your BBs to 26 knots why bother building the 27 knot BC?  Personaly I see no reason for general line units to need to be faster than 22 knots at this point.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

ledeper

#2
October 05, 2009, 03:43:55 PM
You may be rigth ,I could wait till 20 and build this after the planned enlargement to a type 4 slip in Hamburg,then F#¤k Bc`s  ;D ;D:
Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   46.707 t light; 49.525 t standard; 52.922 t normal; 55.639 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   819,05 ft / 815,29 ft x 108,27 ft x 31,99 ft (normal load)
   249,65 m / 248,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,75 m

Armament:
      9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (2x2 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1920 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 28.009 lbs / 12.705 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   541,34 ft / 165,00 m   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   541,34 ft / 165,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   652,23 ft / 198,80 m   30,71 ft / 9,36 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   1,97" / 50 mm   0,79" / 20 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 3,94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 136.457 shp / 101.797 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 8.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.114 tons

Complement:
   1.743 - 2.267

Cost:
   £12,498 million / $49,991 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3.501 tons, 6,6 %
   Armour: 16.974 tons, 32,1 %
      - Belts: 5.969 tons, 11,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.459 tons, 2,8 %
      - Armament: 4.176 tons, 7,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 4.952 tons, 9,4 %
      - Conning Tower: 418 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 5.084 tons, 9,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 20.647 tons, 39,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.215 tons, 11,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 0,9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     58.709 lbs / 26.630 Kg = 29,0 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 8,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 7,1 ft / 2,2 m
   Roll period: 17,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,656
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,53 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Forecastle (5 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Mid (80 %):      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,72 ft / 6,01 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 67.992 Square feet or 6.317 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 229 lbs/sq ft or 1.116 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,00
      - Longitudinal: 1,01
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

As usual belt 10 dg outward slope

Tanthalas

#3
October 05, 2009, 03:59:09 PM
Rohan already more or less said Piss on BCs (my newest pair of them are realy just fast BBs)  Personaly I wouldnt pack that many guns on one ship, but then again Turret farms scare me.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

TexanCowboy

#4
October 05, 2009, 04:01:49 PM
You have mounts on the side that are superfiring, and no superfiring for guns on the centerline. Not to mention that a 16'' gun on the side is fairly dangerous. How about 5 turrets, 2 superfiring, with one in the middle of the smokestacks, all triples.

ledeper

#5
October 05, 2009, 04:34:52 PM
Ups ;) ;)

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   46.933 t light; 49.757 t standard; 53.164 t normal; 55.890 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   819,05 ft / 815,29 ft x 108,27 ft x 31,99 ft (normal load)
   249,65 m / 248,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,75 m

Armament:
      9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (2x2 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1920 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 28.009 lbs / 12.705 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   547,90 ft / 167,00 m   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   652,23 ft / 198,80 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   547,90 ft / 167,00 m   30,97 ft / 9,44 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   1,97" / 50 mm   0,79" / 20 mm            -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3,94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 136.995 shp / 102.198 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 8.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.133 tons

Complement:
   1.749 - 2.275

Cost:
   £12,523 million / $50,092 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3.501 tons, 6,6 %
   Armour: 16.907 tons, 31,8 %
      - Belts: 6.168 tons, 11,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.236 tons, 2,3 %
      - Armament: 4.177 tons, 7,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 4.966 tons, 9,3 %
      - Conning Tower: 360 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 5.104 tons, 9,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 20.671 tons, 38,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.231 tons, 11,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 750 tons, 1,4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     58.699 lbs / 26.625 Kg = 29,0 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 8,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,659
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,53 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Forecastle (5 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Mid (80 %):      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,72 ft / 6,01 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 68.179 Square feet or 6.334 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 228 lbs/sq ft or 1.115 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,00
      - Longitudinal: 1,01
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

As usual belt 10 dg outward slope

Borys

#6
October 06, 2009, 08:04:36 AM
I prefer the 5x2x35cm version.
You can have four of the smaller ships for the price of three of the 16" vessels.
And I LOVE pyramids of turrets!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Jefgte

#7
October 06, 2009, 08:15:23 AM
Quote...And I LOVE pyramids of turrets!
...

Takao fan


;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Borys

#8
October 06, 2009, 09:32:22 AM
Ahoj!
Quote from: Jefgte on October 06, 2009, 08:15:23 AM
Quote...And I LOVE pyramids of turrets!
...

Takao fan
;)
Yes!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

ledeper

#9
October 06, 2009, 11:05:42 AM
Ah Its only five turrets 3x3 in a,q y position with superfiring twins in b,x position  8) 8) ;D

Borys

#10
October 06, 2009, 11:42:46 AM
Ahoj!
Even without the pyramid  :'( I still preferr the 5x2x35cm design  :-*...
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

mentat

#11
October 06, 2009, 11:23:09 PM

just how many centreline main gun turrets could you fit in 720' of BB - more than the Gin Palace?  ;D

Tanthalas

#12
October 06, 2009, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: mentat on October 06, 2009, 11:23:09 PM

just how many centreline main gun turrets could you fit in 720' of BB - more than the Gin Palace?  ;D

Gunnery Officer: "Look Sir she blew up"
Capitan: "no thats just Raubvogel fireing a broadside, thing is a golden BB waiting to happen"
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Borys

#13
October 07, 2009, 12:42:31 AM Last Edit: October 07, 2009, 12:44:11 AM by Borys
Quote from: mentat on October 06, 2009, 11:23:09 PM

just how many centreline main gun turrets could you fit in 720' of BB - more than the Gin Palace?  ;D
I decided to limit myself to eight (appologies to Ledepper for thread hijacking :))

There a cutesy pyramids fore and aft, with the two turrets in the centre on deck level.
Borys


ESC battleship 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   36 823 t light; 38 784 t standard; 40 435 t normal; 41 756 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,00 ft / 720,00 ft x 108,00 ft x 28,00 ft (normal load)
   219,46 m / 219,46 m x 32,92 m  x 8,53 m

Armament:
      12 - 13,80" / 351 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1 322,77lbs / 600,00kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 13,80" / 351 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1 322,77lbs / 600,00kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all amidships
      20 - 5,00" / 127 mm guns (16 mounts), 62,50lbs / 28,35kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 22 414 lbs / 10 167 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 90

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,5" / 343 mm   420,00 ft / 128,02 m   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 90% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,50" / 38 mm   450,00 ft / 137,16 m   46,00 ft / 14,02 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   9,00" / 229 mm      13,0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   14,0" / 356 mm   9,00" / 229 mm      13,0" / 330 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 3,50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 17,00" / 432 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 57 572 shp / 42 949 Kw = 23,00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 972 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   1 425 - 1 853

Cost:
   £9,301 million / $37,203 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 784 tons, 6,9%
   Armour: 15 142 tons, 37,4%
      - Belts: 4 570 tons, 11,3%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 149 tons, 2,8%
      - Armament: 5 135 tons, 12,7%
      - Armour Deck: 3 857 tons, 9,5%
      - Conning Tower: 431 tons, 1,1%
   Machinery: 2 195 tons, 5,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 16 301 tons, 40,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 612 tons, 8,9%
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     53 992 lbs / 24 490 Kg = 41,1 x 13,8 " / 351 mm shells or 9,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,650
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,52 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   19,00 ft / 5,79 m
      - Mid (50%):      18,78 ft / 5,72 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   18,78 ft / 5,72 m
      - Stern:      18,78 ft / 5,72 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,70 ft / 6,00 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,9%
   Waterplane Area: 59 569 Square feet or 5 534 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 211 lbs/sq ft or 1 032 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,09
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Walter

#14
October 07, 2009, 01:27:13 AM
What?! No pyramid in the middle?!? :D
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