1920 - KKK tentative designs

[Borys]

The finished article (drawing by Sachmle - I grovel before Thee!)
BTW - Sachmle did a slightly better SS of the ship, but I have to live with my mistakes ...
The MB was lengthened so it fits the picture.




Petoefi Sandor, Habsburgs Schlachtschiff laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   37 451 t light; 39 251 t standard; 41 533 t normal; 43 359 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,54 ft / 720,00 ft x 118,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load)
   219,62 m / 219,46 m x 35,97 m  x 8,84 m

Armament:
      8 - 16,50" / 419 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2 500,00lbs / 1 133,98kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 5,30" / 135 mm guns (6x2 guns), 75,00lbs / 34,02kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward
      8 - 5,30" / 135 mm guns (4x2 guns), 75,00lbs / 34,02kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all aft
      16 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1,00lbs / 0,45kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 21 516 lbs / 9 759 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   465,00 ft / 141,73 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
   Ends:   4,00" / 102 mm   255,00 ft / 77,72 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Upper:   14,0" / 356 mm   465,00 ft / 141,73 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 99% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,50" / 38 mm   465,00 ft / 141,73 m   45,00 ft / 13,72 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15,0" / 381 mm   7,00" / 178 mm      13,5" / 343 mm
   2nd:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,30" / 33 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,30" / 33 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   4th:   0,75" / 19 mm   0,40" / 10 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 3,50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 17,00" / 432 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 92 493 shp / 69 000 Kw = 26,00 kts
   Range 8 525nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 109 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   1 454 - 1 891

Cost:
   £9,098 million / $36,391 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 434 tons, 5,9%
   Armour: 15 241 tons, 36,7%
      - Belts: 6 760 tons, 16,3%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 161 tons, 2,8%
      - Armament: 2 894 tons, 7,0%
      - Armour Deck: 3 986 tons, 9,6%
      - Conning Tower: 439 tons, 1,1%
   Machinery: 3 526 tons, 8,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15 749 tons, 37,9%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 083 tons, 9,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     51 578 lbs / 23 395 Kg = 23,0 x 16,5 " / 419 mm shells or 9,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 7,7 ft / 2,4 m
   Roll period: 17,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,590
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,10 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 1,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31,00 ft / 9,45 m
      - Forecastle (16%):   23,00 ft / 7,01 m
      - Mid (36%):      23,00 ft / 7,01 m (15,00 ft / 4,57 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (13%):   15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Stern:      15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,39 ft / 5,61 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,8%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 139,1%
   Waterplane Area: 61 560 Square feet or 5 719 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 992 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,11
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Borys]

Piccie by Sachmle

[Sachmle]

Color's by Borys (PINK?)

Parts to make said piccie by Wes Wilson and Brock Paine @ WesWorld.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Montecuccoli Pink is the OTL colour scheme ...
Borys

[The Rock Doctor]

It's a salmon.  More specifically, a death salmon.

[Guinness]

Gah! My eyes!

Seriously, I'd rather look at that thread of ugly French battleships.

Borys: I have a friend and coworker who is both Swedish and color blind. He makes better color decisions.

[Sachmle]

Seriously, I'd rather look at that thread of ugly French battleships.

Why is it EVERY time I almost forget Depuy de Lome someone brings up that thread?

[Kaiser Kirk]

Why is the upper belt 14"??

[Borys]

Ahoj!
I had enough tonnage to armour the sides to an even thickness.
Borys

[Sachmle]

Why is the upper belt 14"??

I wondered the same, but then I remembered it was Borys "Iron Fortress" Zakrzewski. My best guess was that IC he couldn't mill a 21' tall 14" thick plate.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Ahoj!
I had enough tonnage to armour the sides to an even thickness.
Borys

Didn't occur to you to expend it in wrought iron figureheads, flowers, and cute little animals like a Disney scene?  Instead you went with more armor? Tsk tsk.

[Borys]

LOL!
You guys are pushing me towards the Hello Kitty! solution, to release my  "inner Princess":

[Sachmle]

ROTFLMAO!!! Out fu**ing standing Borys!! Bravo!

[Kaiser Kirk]

Now THAT's a figurehead !

[Borys]

:D
I hope Tanthalas will survive the shock when it dawns on him WHAT this is :)
Borys