Rohan ships 1916, 1917, & Beyond

[Tanthalas]

as for

Yup 2 Triples SF over 2 Quads, like I said wierd ship kick.

... I really like the look of twins over triples...not sure about triples over quads.

I like twons over triples to, and im quite sure that triples over quads would be ugly... if I were to draw it I would even use a Quean Anns Tower style Super Structure to acentuate its ugliness.  Rohan dosnt even have a quad 14" but I thought it was an interesting idea so I went ahead and posted it (twin 15.5" ofer triple 15.5" will fit on the same hull)

[Ithekro]

Of course then there is the twins over triples over quads idea (a superimposed twin over a superimposed triple mount.)

[Tanthalas]

Of course then there is the twins over triples over quads idea (a superimposed twin over a superimposed triple mount.)

ACK Pagoda.... now that would be Ugly (not to mention a tad top heavy)

[Ithekro]

Slightly less than three triples forward.

[Tanthalas]

*OOC Serious Ship warning*  Having given much consideration to and spent large ammounts of capital on researching aviation and its potential uses to the fleet Rohan is proud to present Sting V.R. Aviation Cruiser of the Mark.

Sting, Rohan Aviation Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)

Displacement:
   7,700 t light; 7,973 t standard; 10,053 t normal; 11,717 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 557.00 ft x 68.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 169.77 m x 20.73 m  x 6.71 m

Armament:
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 864 lbs / 392 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 3 shafts, 97,344 shp / 72,618 Kw = 33.00 kts
   Range 8,525nm at 19.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,743 tons

Complement:
   501 - 652

Cost:
   £1.826 million / $7.302 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 108 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 47 tons, 0.5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 47 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 3,404 tons, 33.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,863 tons, 38.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,353 tons, 23.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 279 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,126 lbs / 4,139 Kg = 84.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 14.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0.422
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.19 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 81
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (50 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m (22.00 ft / 6.71 m before break)
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.20 ft / 6.46 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,651 Square feet or 2,197 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 502 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.87
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

279 tons Misc. Weight
100 tons FC
  48 tons torpedos
  25 tons Radar
  25 tons Wireless
  25 tons Seaplane
  25 tons Crew Comfort
    8 tons Combat Information Center
    3 tons Comanders Quarters

[TexanCowboy]

Just as long as it's only one plane...

[Tanthalas]

Just as long as it's only one plane...

Oh I could rearange the Misc. Weight and get 2 on it but IDK if they would fit.

[Ithekro]

What are this ships type's duties?

[Tanthalas]

What are this ships type's duties?

Scouting/Escort/Raider/Look Realy Freking Cool (it seriously would look AWSOME trust me)

[ctwaterman]

Yes this ship will look seriously awsome .....

I have a ship I want almost exactly in its tonnage that will have to await 2 simple things.

1918:  Black Powder Catapults for Float Planes...
and
1917:  Historic 1918 Aircraft - Radios in Twin Engined Aircraft.

I will point out this is forcing me to build a twin engined aircraft with 2 engines driving 1 Propeller so I can have a Radio on a reasonably sized float plane.  Which might be a little Rules Squirly as I belive the desire was for us to have to wait until the 1920 aircraft to have single engined float plane scouts on ships.

[Tanthalas]

I have been considering if it would absolutly require the black powder catapults... Couldnt we launch a twin engine flying boat off the Ocean? One could be kept relativly small im fairly sure, it might not be as efficent but atleast hypotheticly it should be possible.

[Ithekro]

Sort of like the old fashion torpedo launchers...lower the torpedo into the water, then let it go....before the tubes were invented.

[Tanthalas]

Sort of like the old fashion torpedo launchers...lower the torpedo into the water, then let it go....before the tubes were invented.

Yeah but it would work wouldnt it?  I dont know much about early naval aviation but I can see that working.

[ctwaterman]

Sort of like the old fashion torpedo launchers...lower the torpedo into the water, then let it go....before the tubes were invented.

Yeah but it would work wouldnt it?  I dont know much about early naval aviation but I can see that working.

Yes you can build a Float Plane Tender, a Crane for loading the plane back on the deck can be used to land it on the water.  However this requires relatively calm water to take off more so then when it lands.   My Plan was litterally Scout Cruisers armed with light guns and several Catapults and 4 Aircraft roughly 100 to 200 Tons dedicated to Aircraft Operations.   The Ability to launch the Aircraft while operating with the fleet and not having to stop to launch them and recover them was critical.  A large Ship is also needed to create the Lee Area necessary for the recovery of the Aircraft in certain wave conditions.

[Tanthalas]

im actualy working on a Drawing of it atm, IDK aobut fiting more than one plane with all the bloody torps I stuck on it LOL (im not even sure one will fit)