Rohan ships 1916, 1917, & Beyond

[mentat]

   mmm - i'm puzzled - what would they be useful for ?? - that the Combat Cruiser could not also do?

   how about more balanced designs:

   Fast BB type - bit bigger, only 28 knots but proper belt armour - 12"

    Faster BC  31+ knots - but with 9 or 12 x 12"

[Tanthalas]

Revised for Production, these ships will serve as the new Heavy element for the Scouting forces.



Rhinvan, Rastiwen, & Ralwdda, Rohan Battlecruiser laid down 1917 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   27,500 t light; 28,866 t standard; 33,808 t normal; 37,762 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   808.00 ft / 794.00 ft x 96.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   246.28 m / 242.01 m x 29.26 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
     6 - 15.50" / 394 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,861.94lbs / 844.56kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
     16 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (8x2 guns), 45.56lbs / 20.67kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
     6 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (3x2 guns), 45.56lbs / 20.67kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, majority aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
     8 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 12,187 lbs / 5,528 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   530.00 ft / 161.54 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   530.00 ft / 161.54 m   27.01 ft / 8.23 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

  - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 128,000 shp / 95,500 Kw = 30.00+ kts
   Range 8,525nm at 19.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8,895 tons

Complement:
   1,246 - 1,620

Cost:
   £5.291 million / $21.163 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,523 tons, 4.5 %
   Armour: 7,697 tons, 22.8 %
      - Belts: 3,219 tons, 9.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 794 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 1,639 tons, 4.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,909 tons, 5.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 135 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,770 tons, 14.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,109 tons, 38.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,308 tons, 18.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40,840 lbs / 18,525 Kg = 21.9 x 15.5 " / 394 mm shells or 5.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 16.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.57
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.517
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.27 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: -8.00 ft / -2.44 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   28.00 ft / 8.53 m (19.00 ft / 5.79 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Stern:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.80 ft / 6.34 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 51,606 Square feet or 4,794 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 178 lbs/sq ft or 871 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.09
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
   
400 tons Misc. Weight
250 tons FC
50 tons Radar Instalation
25 tons Wireless
25 tons Crew Comfort (Heating, Cooling, Aditional Coffee pots)
25 tons Flag Facilities
25 tons Reserved

[Walter]

It's a Renown/Repulse. Could be useful if you can get Walter to post the Renowapulse.

Repulnown... Now where did I leave that one...

Ah. Here it is. :D

[Tanthalas]

It's a Renown/Repulse. Could be useful if you can get Walter to post the Renowapulse.

Repulnown... Now where did I leave that one...

Ah. Here it is. :D

not going to happen... although I did just finish the pic of them

[Tanthalas]

Late one nite, an unknown person sliped into the Rohan BuShips, and placed the Following plans on the Directors desk.  (no I dont realy plan to build her but it is an interesting BB =P )


(forgive me the pic isnt finished yet)

Eorl, Rohan Battleship laid down 1917 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   29,000 t light; 30,414 t standard; 31,669 t normal; 32,673 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   641.00 ft / 630.00 ft x 101.00 ft x 27.00 ft (normal load)
   195.38 m / 192.02 m x 30.78 m  x 8.23 m

Armament:
      6 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      3 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (1x3 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline amidships
      4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (2x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, all aft, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (8x2 guns), 45.56lbs / 20.67kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 13,522 lbs / 6,134 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   474.00 ft / 144.48 m   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
   Ends:   7.00" / 178 mm   156.00 ft / 47.55 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
     Main Belt covers 116 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   474.00 ft / 144.48 m   27.00 ft / 8.23 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   16.0" / 406 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   4th:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   5th:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 40,000 shp / 29,840 Kw = 21.52 kts
   Range 5,750nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,259 tons

Complement:
   1,186 - 1,543

Cost:
   £4.806 million / $19.225 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,690 tons, 5.3 %
   Armour: 12,321 tons, 38.9 %
      - Belts: 5,651 tons, 17.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 710 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armament: 2,067 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,591 tons, 11.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 302 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,490 tons, 4.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,808 tons, 40.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,669 tons, 8.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 690 tons, 2.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     56,388 lbs / 25,577 Kg = 41.1 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 9.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 6.4 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 16.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.58

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.645
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forecastle (25 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (50 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (0 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Stern:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 72.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 48,529 Square feet or 4,508 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 196 lbs/sq ft or 958 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.72
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Tanthalas]

As a counter to the previous misthought proposal the Admiralty of the High Seas Fleet has proposed the following ship.  Only 800 tons heavier than the previous insane proposal she would be only 1000 tons heavier than the Preceding 12X14" ships.  (credit to sam for managing to break me out of my rut the ship was mostly his idea)

This ship is intended for Production

BB-20 Eorl
BB-21 Peregrin

Eorl, Rohan Battleship laid down 1917 (Engine 1920)

Displacement:
   29,800 t light; 31,409 t standard; 33,995 t normal; 36,064 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   686.00 ft / 680.00 ft x 110.25 ft x 28.50 ft (normal load)
   209.09 m / 207.26 m x 33.60 m  x 8.69 m

Armament:
     8 - 15.50" / 394 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,951.00lbs / 884.96kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount - superfiring
     16 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (8x2 guns), 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
     4 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (2x2 guns), 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     8 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 16,522 lbs / 7,494 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   442.00 ft / 134.72 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   238.00 ft / 72.54 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   442.00 ft / 134.72 m   31.50 ft / 9.60 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      2.00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      2.00" / 51 mm
   4th:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

  - Armour deck: 3.50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 44,000 shp / 32,824 Kw = 22.10 kts
   Range 8,525nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,655 tons

Complement:
   1,251 - 1,627

Cost:
   £5.308 million / $21.233 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,978 tons, 5.8 %
   Armour: 11,889 tons, 35.0 %
      - Belts: 4,453 tons, 13.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 773 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armament: 2,937 tons, 8.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,410 tons, 10.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 317 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,538 tons, 4.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,895 tons, 40.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,195 tons, 12.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     57,690 lbs / 26,168 Kg = 31.0 x 15.5 " / 394 mm shells or 10.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 7.5 ft / 2.3 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.36

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.557
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.17 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.08 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.61 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (70 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (14.00 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.30 ft / 6.19 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 52,659 Square feet or 4,892 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 201 lbs/sq ft or 981 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

500 tons misc. weight
250 tons FC
25 tons Radar Instalation
25 tons Wireless
25 tons Crew Comfort (Heating, Cooling, Aditional Coffee pots)
60 tons Flag Facilities
10 tons Flag Stateroom
 5 tons Capitans stateroom
100 tons Reserve (future growth, or if required even more Coffee pots)

[mentat]

  Good solid BB

  query on arrangement for the Rear superfiring Secs .....

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Seemingly solid design, but ...
- slowish, even by Habsburg standards;
- extremally underarmoured - there is only 7'6" of the MB sticking above the WL (waterline). Maybe cut down MB to 13", and the AD to 3", and spend the balance on either a broader MB, or an 8FT UB of at least 8";

I'd venture that the "centerline ends" secondaries are on the tops of turrets Bruno and Caesar.

Borys

[Tanthalas]

they are basicly just like on Asfaloth, I havnt drawn her yet but im fairly sure they should fit.

[Tanthalas]

The Final version of the Eldacar class Combat CRuiser Planed class of 6.  These ships when compleated will serve with the Asfaloth class fast battle ships.



Eldacar
Alcarin
Ondoher
Narmacil
Romendacil
Valandil

Eldacar, Rohan Combat Cruiser laid down 1917 (Engine 1920)

Displacement:
   17,000 t light; 17,945 t standard; 21,199 t normal; 23,802 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   684.00 ft / 671.00 ft x 78.00 ft x 28.00 ft (normal load)
   208.48 m / 204.52 m x 23.77 m  x 8.53 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x3 guns), 926.00lbs / 420.03kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (8x2 guns), 45.56lbs / 20.67kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (2x2 guns), 45.56lbs / 20.67kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6,481 lbs / 2,940 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 140

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   403.00 ft / 122.83 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   4th:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 101,000 shp / 75,346 Kw = 30.02 kts
   Range 8,525nm at 19.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,858 tons

Complement:
   877 - 1,141

Cost:
   £3.147 million / $12.588 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 764 tons, 3.6 %
   Armour: 4,153 tons, 19.6 %
      - Belts: 1,932 tons, 9.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 825 tons, 3.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,298 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 99 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 3,531 tons, 16.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,147 tons, 38.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,199 tons, 19.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 405 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27,829 lbs / 12,623 Kg = 32.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 15.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0.506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.90 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: -8.00 ft / -2.44 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.00 ft / 7.92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (50 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m (23.00 ft / 7.01 m before break)
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.44 ft / 6.53 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 175.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 35,073 Square feet or 3,258 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 149 lbs/sq ft or 729 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.57
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

405 tons Misc. Weight
250 tons FC
  25 tons Radar
  25 tons Wireless
  25 tons Crew Comfort (Heating, Cooling, Aditional Coffee pots)
  25 tons Flag Facilities
  55 tons Reserved

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Hmmm, aren't the NeoSwiss contemplating something similar?
I feel a lack of a boat deck - any chance to bring those centerline secondaries down to the sides?
Borys

[Tanthalas]

Ahoj!
Hmmm, aren't the NeoSwiss contemplating something similar?
I feel a lack of a boat deck - any chance to bring those centerline secondaries down to the sides?
Borys

... I was planing it first =P its Rohans responce to the Whealers.  and while I could move them down to deck level then I would have to move the AA mounts up causing the same basic problem.  Basicly this is how Rohan responds to the treaty cruisers (honestly I think it could swat anything it couldnt just flat out run away from)

[Borys]

Ahoj!
I clicked the piccie. Lovely line drawing!
And I finaly noticed the useless mount on the bow!
Borys

[Jefgte]

Nice drawing & well balanced Combat Cruiser

;)

[Tanthalas]

I thought as I had 4 under construction I realy should get around to posting these (the pic took like literaly forever).  Intended as the light escorts for the Asfolath Battleships Range and Firepower erre Major Considerations on these ships



Forod Sul, Rohan Light Cruiser laid down 1917 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   6,000 t light; 6,238 t standard; 7,322 t normal; 8,190 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 550.00 ft x 55.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 167.64 m x 16.76 m  x 6.10 m

Armament:
      10 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (5x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
      2 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
      2 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline amidships, all raised guns - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 1,087 lbs / 493 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   385.00 ft / 117.35 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 54,000 shp (53,472 actual) / 39,890 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,952 tons

Complement:
   395 - 514

Cost:
   £1.096 million / $4.386 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 136 tons, 1.9 %
   Armour: 905 tons, 12.4 %
      - Belts: 473 tons, 6.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 58 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 350 tons, 4.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 1,992 tons, 27.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,759 tons, 37.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,322 tons, 18.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 208 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,622 lbs / 3,457 Kg = 70.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 13.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.424
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19.30 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.50 ft / -1.37 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (51 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m (12.00 ft / 3.66 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Stern:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,907 Square feet or 1,757 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 91 lbs/sq ft or 443 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

208 tons Misc. Weight
100 tons FC
  50 tons Radar
  25 tons Marconi
  12 tons torps
  12 tons Crew Comfort
    8 tons Reserve
    1 tons Capitans Quarters