Egyptian Design Studies 1918

Started by ciders, September 04, 2009, 06:12:27 AM

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ciders

Project of Riverine Monitor, without mortars but with light field artillery to counter Beduins and ennemies cavalry raids.

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Alpha, Egypt Riverine Monitor laid down 1918 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   546 t light; 561 t standard; 599 t normal; 630 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   196,85 ft / 196,85 ft x 39,37 ft x 4,92 ft (normal load)
   60,00 m / 60,00 m x 12,00 m  x 1,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm guns in single mounts, 0,06lbs / 0,03kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 29 lbs / 13 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0,79" / 20 mm   131,23 ft / 40,00 m   4,92 ft / 1,50 m
   Ends:   0,39" / 10 mm     32,81 ft / 10,00 m   3,28 ft / 1,00 m
     32,81 ft / 10,00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Armour deck: 0,39" / 10 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 577 shp / 430 Kw = 12,00 kts
   Range 1 100nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 69 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   59 - 78

Cost:
   £0,058 million / $0,231 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 tons, 0,6 %
   Armour: 64 tons, 10,6 %
      - Belts: 24 tons, 4,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 39 tons, 6,6 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 48 tons, 8,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 401 tons, 66,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 53 tons, 8,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 5,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 122 lbs / 1 416 Kg = 231,3 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24
   Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,6 m
   Roll period: 12,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,49

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14,03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 37 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15,42 ft / 4,70 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   9,81 ft / 2,99 m
      - Mid (50 %):      9,81 ft / 2,99 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9,81 ft / 2,99 m
      - Stern:      9,81 ft / 2,99 m
      - Average freeboard:   10,26 ft / 3,13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 37,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 409 Square feet or 502 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 274 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 286 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,41
      - Longitudinal: 3,36
      - Overall: 1,54
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

TexanCowboy

You could get a LOT more out of that. Maybe increase the speed a little and add more guns, maybe a few heavies.

ciders

It's a river monitor, not a blocus enforcer. :D

For the heavy guns, I think I can use 37 mm ( like Hotchkiss Model 1916 ).
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

TexanCowboy

Still, maybe you could add a few more knots, or even better, add a few companies of transport capacity. And if thats aimed againist the Zionists, their gunboats are half of the size of yours and mount more guns.

ciders

The ships of New Zion ? No, they can't attack my monitors. For a good reason : it's not possible to sail from the actual Uganda to Khartoum.
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

TexanCowboy


ciders

I agree. It's a monitor and Egyptian technology is weak, so I preferred to insist on the armour rather than on the engine.
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

TexanCowboy

The thing is, you could put a lot more armour on that ship then you have.

ciders

#8
Yep. But it's only a first try.

So, more guns, more armour, more motorisation. Another ideas ?  :D

EDIT :

Third try, with Sachmle's help :

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Au pire on ne les achètera pas, s'ils n'existent pas!
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

TexanCowboy

Much better. You could possibly increase the speed a little, but still, a much better ship.

Sachmle

QuoteArmour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1,57" / 40 mm   131,23 ft / 40,00 m   4,92 ft / 1,50 m
   Ends:   0,98" / 25 mm     32,81 ft / 10,00 m   3,28 ft / 1,00 m
     32,81 ft / 10,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   0,98" / 25 mm     0,00 ft / 0,00 m   0,00 ft / 0,00 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

I'd fix that first, then see what's left over. If there is any, you may want to lengthen the end belts.
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ciders

#11
Oops, what a nice forget... but not for Egyptian crews. :P

The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist