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A-Class Updated :

Slated for replacement by 1925

A-Class Updated, CSA Torpedo Ram laid down 1900

Six units, sold by the CSA in 1914, received between 1914 and 1915.

D-5 Aboukir (Replaced by DD-15 at the end of 1920 and relegated to reserve status)
D-6 Damietta (Replaced by DD-16 at the end of 1920 and relegated to reserve status)
D-7 El Alamein (Replaced by DD-17 at the end of 1920 and relegated to reserve status)
D-8 Fayum
D-9 Hurghada
D-10 Quseir

Displacement:
  540 t light; 558 t standard; 633 t normal; 693 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  237.50 ft / 237.50 ft x 23.50 ft x 9.75 ft (normal load)
  72.39 m / 72.39 m x 7.16 m  x 2.97 m

Armament:
     2 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 20.00lbs / 9.07kg shells, 1915 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
     4 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1915 Model
    Machine guns in deck mounts
    on side, all forward
     6 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1900 Model
    Machine guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread
  Weight of broadside 42 lbs / 19 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 200
  3 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
  Oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
  Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,980 ihp / 8,191 Kw = 27.00 kts
  Range 3,890nm at 10.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 134 tons
    Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
  63 - 82

Cost:
  £0.077 million / $0.308 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 6 tons, 0.9 %
  Machinery: 381 tons, 60.2 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 138 tons, 21.8 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 92 tons, 14.6 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 2.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    113 lbs / 51 Kg = 5.3 x 3.5 " / 89 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
  Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
  Roll period: 10.5 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.89

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has a flush deck
  Block coefficient: 0.407
  Length to Beam Ratio: 10.11 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 15.41 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 80
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -30.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     - Mid (50 %):      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     - Stern:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     - Average freeboard:   9.16 ft / 2.79 m
  Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 203.7 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 61.8 %
  Waterplane Area: 3,450 Square feet or 321 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 20 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 102 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.50
     - Longitudinal: 1.37
     - Overall: 0.55

  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
  Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
  Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Misc Weights:
3t: Torpedoes
2t: 6 Depth Charges (single stern track)
10t: Short Range Marconi
1t: Reserve

Range at 15 knots: 1480nm
Range at 20 knots: 672nm
Range at top speed: 266nm or 9.85 hours

Refurbishment costs:
Armament: 11t: 0.011 BP and $0.022
Fucntional Misc: 10t: 0.01 BP and $0.01
Non-functional Misc: 1t: $0.0005
Fuel change to all oil: 92t: $0.046

Total: 0.021BP and $0.0855

Original Design:
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

ciders

#1
E-Class :

CSA Torpedo Ram laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

The more modern units of the Egyptian Fleet. Sold by CSA and delivered between 1916 and 1917. They are all displayed in Alexandria.

D-11 Al Badari
D-12 Al Fashn
D-13 Al Manshah
D-14 Al Qusiyah

Displacement:
  1,000 t light; 1,038 t standard; 1,204 t normal; 1,336 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  339.00 ft / 334.00 ft x 30.50 ft x 10.04 ft (normal load)
  103.33 m / 101.80 m x 9.30 m  x 3.06 m

Armament:
     4 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 30.00lbs / 13.61kg shells, 1914 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     4 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1914 Model
    Machine guns in deck mounts
    on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
     1 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns in single mounts, 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1914 Model
    Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
    on centreline aft, 1 raised gun
  Weight of broadside 124 lbs / 56 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 200
  6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
  Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
  Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
  Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,000 shp / 19,396 Kw = 31.51 kts
  Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 298 tons

Complement:
  101 - 132

Cost:
  £0.177 million / $0.707 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 16 tons, 1.4 %
  Armour: 9 tons, 0.7 %
     - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 9 tons, 0.7 %
     - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
  Machinery: 643 tons, 53.4 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 287 tons, 23.9 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 204 tons, 16.9 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 3.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    261 lbs / 119 Kg = 8.2 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
  Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
  Roll period: 11.0 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.87

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has rise forward of midbreak
  Block coefficient: 0.412
  Length to Beam Ratio: 10.95 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 18.28 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 81
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13.70 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      20.50 ft / 6.25 m
     - Forecastle (15 %):   17.75 ft / 5.41 m
     - Mid (33 %):      16.00 ft / 4.88 m (8.00 ft / 2.44 m aft of break)
     - Quarterdeck (10 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     - Stern:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     - Average freeboard:   11.23 ft / 3.42 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187.1 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.2 %
  Waterplane Area: 6,316 Square feet or 587 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 53 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 128 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.50
     - Longitudinal: 0.90
     - Overall: 0.53

  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
  Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
  Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Misc Weights:
25 tons: Fire control
6 tons: Torpedoes
4 tons: 12 depth charges (launched from stern racks)
10 tons: Reserve

Range at top speed: 11.9 hours, 375 nm
Range at 28.5 knots: 18.0 hours, 515 nm
Range at 15 knots: 2990 nm

Seakeeping at 28.5 knots: 1.08
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

ciders

DD-1905 class :

Italia Destroyer laid down 1905

Four units, given up by Italy, according to the Treaty of Suez.

D-1 Bahariyya
D-2 Farafra
D-3 Qattara
D-4 Siwa

Displacement:
   758 t light; 787 t standard; 870 t normal; 937 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   280.00 ft / 280.00 ft x 24.00 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)
   85.34 m / 85.34 m x 7.32 m  x 3.05 m

Armament:
      4 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 130 lbs / 59 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.35" / 9 mm   0.35" / 9 mm            -
   2nd:   0.35" / 9 mm   0.35" / 9 mm            -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12,350 shp / 9,213 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 2,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 150 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   79 - 104

Cost:
   £0.107 million / $0.426 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 16 tons, 1.9 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0.6 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 474 tons, 54.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 234 tons, 26.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 112 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 28 tons, 3.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     189 lbs / 86 Kg = 5.9 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 99 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.62

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.453
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Mid (30 %):      18.00 ft / 5.49 m (10.00 ft / 3.05 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Stern:      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.40 ft / 3.78 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 51.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,297 Square feet or 399 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 39 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 112 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.46
      - Overall: 0.58

   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
The only difference, between the balls of July 14th and the French Revolution, it is the size of firecrackers and the direction towards which we launch them.

Christophe Barbier, French journalist

Darman

#3
The result of a joint Romanian/Egyptian consortium with the engines being provided by Romania and the hulls laid down in Egypt.  Entering service in June 1920.  

DD by Committee, Egyptian/Romanian Destroyer laid down 1919 (Engine 1912)

Currently known only as the class of 1920 six of these vessels were completed in 1920 and three were sold to Romania as part of the joint agreement. 
DD-15
DD-16
DD-17
DD-18-transferred to Romania at end of 1920
DD-19-transferred to Romania at end of 1920
DD-20-transferred to Romania at end of 1920

Displacement:
  749 t light; 777 t standard; 860 t normal; 926 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  293.09 ft / 290.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 9.50 ft (normal load)
  89.33 m / 88.39 m x 7.92 m  x 2.90 m

Armament:
     4 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 21.44lbs / 9.73kg shells, 1919 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     8 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns in single mounts, 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1919 Model
    Machine guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread
  Weight of broadside 90 lbs / 41 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 215
  6 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
  Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
  Direct drive, 3 shafts, 22,759 shp / 16,978 Kw = 31.50 kts
  Range 2,500nm at 13.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 149 tons

Complement:
  79 - 103

Cost:
  £0.221 million / $0.883 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 11 tons, 1.3 %
  Machinery: 468 tons, 54.5 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 263 tons, 30.6 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 111 tons, 12.9 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    240 lbs / 109 Kg = 11.2 x 3.5 " / 89 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
  Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
  Roll period: 9.8 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has a flush deck
  Block coefficient: 0.420
  Length to Beam Ratio: 11.15 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 17.03 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      17.50 ft / 5.33 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
     - Mid (50 %):      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   11.30 ft / 3.44 m
     - Stern:      11.00 ft / 3.35 m
     - Average freeboard:   12.35 ft / 3.76 m
  Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187.0 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.9 %
  Waterplane Area: 4,701 Square feet or 437 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 45 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 126 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.50
     - Longitudinal: 2.26
     - Overall: 0.58
  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

6 tons- torpedoes