Romanian CBB/AC design competition

Started by Guinness, August 04, 2009, 11:17:19 AM

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TexanCowboy

correct. I'm using American terminology.

Korpen

Quote from: TexanCowboy on August 06, 2009, 08:33:54 AM
correct. I'm using American terminology.
I meant in-game terminology, and there is no "america" here. :)
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TexanCowboy

I'm sorry, how do I explain this?

A frigate in Romania is about the same as a CSA sloop. By that definition, my Armoured Cruiser is a frigate, and it will be classified as such in the massive fleet reorganization.

The Rock Doctor

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Quote from: TexanCowboy on August 06, 2009, 08:06:41 AM
We could make a deal, I could make you 3-4 frigates for that ship. I have the space
Hm, that would be in the region of 50-100 000ton of ships then? (15-30kton each).

...would've been a good deal for Jef, though.

TexanCowboy

yeap. Unfortunatly for him, I'm not that naive

Jefgte

QuoteMod wet blanket time: a reminder that BP is a capability, not a commodity to be traded. Romania might, of course, build something with it's BP for Peru, but what that is and what ship it ends up going in would need to be specifically detailed.

Romania could built 4 x Squadron gun boats for Peru
This type...

Squadron gunboat, Peru 1250t gun boat laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   1 250 t light; 1 383 t standard; 1 617 t normal; 1 804 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   229.66 ft / 229.66 ft x 37.73 ft x 15.55 ft (normal load)
   70.00 m / 70.00 m x 11.50 m  x 4.74 m

Armament:
      2 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1918 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1918 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 651 lbs / 295 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.57" / 40 mm   183.73 ft / 56.00 m   9.45 ft / 2.88 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     39.37 ft / 12.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     6.56 ft / 2.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10 000 shp / 7 460 Kw = 22.37 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 421 tons

Complement:
   126 - 165

Cost:
   £0.327 million / $1.309 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 81 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 149 tons, 9.2 %
      - Belts: 131 tons, 8.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 18 tons, 1.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 368 tons, 22.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 552 tons, 34.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 367 tons, 22.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 6.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1 266 lbs / 574 Kg = 11.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 12.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.420
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Forecastle (22 %):   14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Mid (50 %):      11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarterdeck (19 %):   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Stern:      11.15 ft / 3.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.90 ft / 3.93 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 122.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 402 Square feet or 502 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 58 lbs/sq ft or 285 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 4.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform



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