Romanian Ships for sale

[TexanCowboy]

You probebely would want these as scrap, so here goes:

Elisaveti, Romania Armoured Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   1,351 t light; 1,404 t standard; 1,457 t normal; 1,500 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   250.00 ft / 250.00 ft x 25.00 ft x 15.00 ft (normal load)
   76.20 m / 76.20 m x 7.62 m  x 4.57 m

Armament:
      4 - 4.70" / 119 mm guns in single mounts, 51.91lbs / 23.55kg shells, 1895 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1895 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1895 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 262 lbs / 119 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 15.0" / 381 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   250.00 ft / 76.20 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 2,979 ihp / 2,222 Kw = 17.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 96 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   117 - 153

Cost:
   £0.144 million / $0.575 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 33 tons, 2.2 %
   Armour: 231 tons, 15.8 %
      - Belts: 102 tons, 7.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 37 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 78 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 14 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 492 tons, 33.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 586 tons, 40.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 106 tons, 7.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     589 lbs / 267 Kg = 11.3 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.544
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   11.07 ft / 3.37 m
      - Mid (50 %):      11.07 ft / 3.37 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   11.07 ft / 3.37 m
      - Stern:      11.07 ft / 3.37 m
      - Average freeboard:   11.58 ft / 3.53 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 157.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 75.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,202 Square feet or 390 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 60 lbs/sq ft or 291 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.18
      - Longitudinal: 5.02
      - Overall: 1.36
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Bratianu-Class, Romania MT laid down 1895
Ion Bratianu, Laser Katargiu, Michael Katarginichenu, Alexandru Lachovari

Displacement:
   612 t light; 648 t standard; 668 t normal; 684 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   170.00 ft / 170.00 ft x 25.00 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)
   51.82 m / 51.82 m x 7.62 m  x 3.05 m

Armament:
      5 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward
      6 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 264 lbs / 120 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   170.00 ft / 51.82 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 0.50" / 13 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 761 ihp / 568 Kw = 13.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 36 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   65 - 85

Cost:
   £0.067 million / $0.268 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 33 tons, 4.9 %
   Armour: 150 tons, 22.5 %
      - Belts: 57 tons, 8.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 39 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 53 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 127 tons, 19.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 296 tons, 44.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 56 tons, 8.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 0.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     766 lbs / 348 Kg = 14.5 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
   Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.68
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13.04 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      14.34 ft / 4.37 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   9.13 ft / 2.78 m
      - Mid (50 %):      9.13 ft / 2.78 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9.13 ft / 2.78 m
      - Stern:      9.13 ft / 2.78 m
      - Average freeboard:   9.55 ft / 2.91 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,877 Square feet or 267 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 274 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.18
      - Longitudinal: 5.43
      - Overall: 1.37
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[The Rock Doctor]

Gran Colombia would offer $1.10 for the bunch, in H1/17

[TexanCowboy]

You know the second one has 4 ships, right?

[The Rock Doctor]

Yup.  My offer is based on their scrap value.

[TexanCowboy]

Maddox, I'm surprised you aren't bidding.

[maddox]

For scrap?

I'm going to have a scrapfest  soon enough

With BP's coming out trough my ears, why should I bid?

[TexanCowboy]

Because your almighty France  :D. Plus, you can use the 22 guns to reinforce the Linge DeCreme.

[TexanCowboy]

Honestly, I'm surprised. I would think that more that one person would bid on these.

[Guinness]

it's been an hour. Give it some time. The vast majority of the membership likely hasn't even seen your post yet.

[TexanCowboy]

ok.