Large Transporter

Started by ledeper, March 04, 2009, 03:12:42 PM

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ledeper

?, Esc Transporter laid down 1916 (Engine 1914)

Displacement:
   19.311 t light; 19.761 t standard; 21.552 t normal; 22.984 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   555,23 ft / 551,18 ft x 65,62 ft (Bulges 98,43 ft) x 21,33 ft (normal load)
   169,23 m / 168,00 m x 20,00 m (Bulges 30,00 m)  x 6,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1916 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 218 lbs / 99 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 2 shafts, 36.943 shp / 27.560 Kw = 22,00 kts
   Range 10.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.223 tons

Complement:
   889 - 1.156

Cost:
   £1,469 million / $5,878 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 1.423 tons, 6,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5.061 tons, 23,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.240 tons, 10,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12.800 tons, 59,4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21.747 lbs / 9.864 Kg = 211,2 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 2,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
   Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 24,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,46

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,82 ft / 6,04 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 27.757 Square feet or 2.579 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 527 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,11
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

5000 marines 10000
L/R W/T 250t
Extra lifeboats 250 t
Landing Crafts 500t  4@125 t
Reserve 1800T

Korpen

If transporting troops to shore she is far too large. If not she do not need the landingcrafts.
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P3D

Agreed. This is a liner/troop transport not an assault vessel.

Don't use bulges, it won't save you any displacement, and  you need all the hull volume you can get for the troops.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

ledeper

Smaller design
Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1916 (Engine 1914)

Displacement:
   5.683 t light; 5.837 t standard; 6.770 t normal; 7.516 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   390,61 ft / 387,14 ft x 68,90 ft x 12,30 ft (normal load)
   119,06 m / 118,00 m x 21,00 m  x 3,75 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 214 lbs / 97 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 14.878 shp / 11.099 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 10.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.679 tons

Complement:
   373 - 485

Cost:
   £0,493 million / $1,974 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 0,4 %
   Machinery: 573 tons, 8,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.083 tons, 30,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.087 tons, 16,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3.000 tons, 44,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11.642 lbs / 5.281 Kg = 113,1 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
   Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 14,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,722
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,67 ft / 5,08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 21.800 Square feet or 2.025 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 155 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 367 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,46
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

1000 troops @2000 t
4 LC@125 t 500 t
L/R W/L 2x 50t
Staff-acommodation 100t
reserve 300 t
2550 nm at max speed

Korpen

#4
Did just see the bulges!  :o
Far, far too much, you are transporting soldiers, and that is volume rather then weight critical cargo. So you will want as much superstructure as possible. You can make her much narrower, and if you change the trim you could improve the stability as well.
However if the ship is intended for strategic transports I would increase the speed, and the cruising speed. With 1916 engines a range of about 6-7000nm at 23-24 kts should be possible with that payload.

EDIT: post applies to the large version.
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P3D

Ain't it funny, Nverse has faster troop transports than 1940-1950 IRL.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Korpen

Quote from: P3D on March 04, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
Ain't it funny, Nverse has faster troop transports than 1940-1950 IRL.
Not really surprising, as far fewer Nverse powers have the ability to provide the kind of total sea control the allies could in and after ww2. If one cannot be sure to guard the transports, making them faster so there is less time for a threat to catch them on the open sea makes allot of sense.
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