Torbedoboote und Zerstörer

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Destroyers and Torpedoboats

Date       Class                         #     Displacement  
1907       T1                             5      600t              
1908       M1                            5      600t        
1912       T11                           4      900t      
1913       T11                           4      900t        
1916-18  TGB                          6       200t
1917       GB                            1       200t
1919       Pike                          1     1000t  
1919       MTB-D M14               8         50t          
 




# in class : 10 Ships

Names : T 1-5, M6-10

Official Data :
600 tons
70m x 6m x 3m
27kts, 2,000nm
3x 88mm, 4x TT
unarmored

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This class refitted II/1916
Basic refit of T1-T5 & M6-M10 Torpedo boats
Replacement of twin 20" TT with twin 21" TT.
Installation of 2 Maxim 37mm AAGMs

TB 1907, Bavaria Torpedo Boat laid down 1907

Displacement:
   501 t light; 520 t standard; 585 t normal; 638 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   232,94 ft / 232,94 ft x 19,69 ft x 9,84 ft (normal load)
   71,00 m / 71,00 m x 6,00 m  x 3,00 m

Armament:
     3 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
   Weight of broadside 62 lbs / 28 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   4 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10.625 shp / 7.927 Kw = 27,00 kts
      Trial Speed 28.97
   Range 1.500nm at 12,50 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 118 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   59 - 77

Cost:
   £0,067 million / $0,269 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 8 tons, 1,3%
   Machinery: 309 tons, 52,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 177 tons, 30,2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 84 tons, 14,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 1,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     146 lbs / 66 Kg = 7,0 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 11,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0,454
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11,83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,26 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16,80 ft / 5,12 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,80 ft / 5,12 m (10,70 ft / 3,26 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      10,70 ft / 3,26 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   10,70 ft / 3,26 m
      - Stern:      10,70 ft / 3,26 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,92 ft / 3,63 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 182,1%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 46,1%
   Waterplane Area: 2.935 Square feet or 273 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 42%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 102 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 4,57
      - Overall: 0,63
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather




Kaiser Kirk

#1
# in Class : 8

Names :
TB-11 - TB-14  (L: HY 1, 1912, C: HY2, 1912)
TB-15 - TB-18  (L: HY 1, 1913, C: HY2, 1913)

Official Data :
900 tons
80m x 8m x 3.5m
29kts, 2,500nm
4x 105mm, 4xMG, 4x TT
unarmored

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This class refitted II/1916
Basic refit of TB11-TB14 & TB15-TB18 Torpedo boats
Replacement of twin 20" TT with 2 Twin 21" TT.
Removal of 8mm MG.
Installation of 2 Maxim 37mm AAGMs

TB-11B, Bavaria Torpedo boat laid down 1912 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   750 t light; 783 t standard; 918 t normal; 1,026 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   269.03 ft / 269.03 ft x 24.61 ft x 11.15 ft (normal load)
   82.00 m / 82.00 m x 7.50 m  x 3.40 m

Armament:
     4 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1912 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 141 lbs / 64 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 180
   4 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 17,673 shp / 13,184 Kw = 29.00 kts
       Trail Speed 30.31
   Range 2,690nm at 12.50 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 243 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   83 - 108

Cost:
   £0.108 million / $0.434 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 1.9 %
   Machinery: 481 tons, 52.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 228 tons, 24.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 167 tons, 18.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 24 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     217 lbs / 98 Kg = 6.1 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.435
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Stern:      10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Average freeboard:   11.25 ft / 3.43 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 63.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,173 Square feet or 388 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 47 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 122 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.04
      - Overall: 0.58
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

The TB1 class managed 27 knots and mounted 3x 88mm.  The little ram bowed TB11 attempts to improve on that with 29knts, a theoretical endurance of 8.5 hours at that speed, 4x 105mm.

Misc wieght :
10t spare
10t for Marconi
4 tons for 4 x 20" torpedo (Advanced +1)

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#2
Date & Number
II/1916 : 2
I/1918 : 2
II/ 1918 : 2

Names : TGB - 1-6

(stats as per the ship thead,  similar to TGB-2 below, will post when I remember)

TGB-1, Bavaria Torpedo Gun Boat laid down 1916 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   197 t light; 207 t standard; 237 t normal; 260 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   198.49 ft / 198.49 ft x 18.37 ft x 5.68 ft (normal load)
   60.50 m / 60.50 m x 5.60 m  x 1.73 m

Armament:
     2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread
     1 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline forward, 1 raised gun
     4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1916 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 45 lbs / 20 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Conning tower: 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion generators,
   Electric motors, 1 shaft, 4,603 shp / 3,434 Kw = 25.00 kts
Trial Speed : 29.69
   Range 337nm at 24.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 53 tons

Complement:
   29 - 39

Cost:
   £0.044 million / $0.178 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 6 tons, 2.4 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 1.6 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 1.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 111 tons, 46.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 73 tons, 30.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 16.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     71 lbs / 32 Kg = 3.4 x 3.5 " / 88 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.09 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   11.58 ft / 3.53 m (7.05 ft / 2.15 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      7.05 ft / 2.15 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   7.05 ft / 2.15 m
      - Stern:      7.05 ft / 2.15 m
      - Average freeboard:   8.28 ft / 2.52 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 42.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,123 Square feet or 197 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 56 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 16 lbs/sq ft or 81 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.89
      - Overall: 0.57
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

This version is slightly faster with more gun armanent.  

Misc wt:
3t torpedoes
1t spare
Trial Speed : 29.69

Designed as a motor gun boat.

A hotchkiss 47mm revolver cannon forward is raised in "B" to fire over the raked bow. The aft 88mm is located in "X" with the torpedoes in "Y".  MGs in 1-4 provide AP fire.
Light armor is intended to keep the crew functioning in gun battles.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#3
Date Completed & Number
I/1917  - 1

Names : GB-1

TGB-2, Bavaria Torpedo Gun Boat laid down 1916 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
  198 t light; 206 t standard; 235 t normal; 259 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  198.49 ft / 198.49 ft x 18.37 ft x 5.64 ft (normal load)
  60.50 m / 60.50 m x 5.60 m  x 1.72 m

Armament:
     1 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1916 Model
    Quick firing gun in deck mount
    on centreline aft
     1 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1916 Model
    Quick firing gun in deck mount
    on centreline forward, 1 raised gun
     4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1916 Model
    Machine guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread
  Weight of broadside 24 lbs / 11 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 200
  3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
  Main:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
  2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
  3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Conning tower: 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
  Diesel Internal combustion generators,
  Electric motors, 1 shaft, 3,864 shp / 2,882 Kw = 24.00 kts
Trial speed 28.6kts
  Range 337nm at 24.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 53 tons

Complement:
  29 - 39

Cost:
  £0.040 million / $0.161 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 3 tons, 1.3 %
  Armour: 2 tons, 1.0 %
     - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 2 tons, 0.7 %
     - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
  Machinery: 108 tons, 46.0 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 68 tons, 28.9 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 37 tons, 15.6 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 17 tons, 7.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    77 lbs / 35 Kg = 3.7 x 3.5 " / 88 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
  Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
  Roll period: 9.5 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has raised forecastle
  Block coefficient: 0.400
  Length to Beam Ratio: 10.80 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 14.09 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      15.58 ft / 4.75 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   11.58 ft / 3.53 m (6.92 ft / 2.11 m aft of break)
     - Mid (50 %):      6.92 ft / 2.11 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   6.92 ft / 2.11 m
     - Stern:      6.92 ft / 2.11 m
     - Average freeboard:   8.17 ft / 2.49 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166.6 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 41.8 %
  Waterplane Area: 2,123 Square feet or 197 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 67 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 15 lbs/sq ft or 76 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.50
     - Longitudinal: 1.66
     - Overall: 0.56
  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
  Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

This version is slightly larger and slower, but can cram a full platoon of  soldiers on board for raids.

Misc wt:
3t torpedoes
13t troop capacity (52 troops)
1t spare
Trial Speed : 27.45

Designed as a motor gun boat.

A hotchkiss 47mm revolver cannon forward is raised in "B" to fire over the raked bow. The aft 105mm is located in "X" with the torpedoes in "Y".  MGs in 1-4 provide AP fire.
Light armor is intended to keep the crew functioning in gun battles.

trail speed : 28.6

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#4
Pike Class

# in Class : 1

Date Completed & Number : I/20, 1

Official Data :
1,200 tons
90m x 8m x 4m
32kts, 4,000nm
4x 120mm QF, 8x TT
unarmored

Pike, Bavaria Zerstorer laid down 1919 (Engine 1915)

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,048 t standard; 1,174 t normal; 1,274 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   302.91 ft / 295.28 ft x 26.74 ft x 12.30 ft (normal load)
   92.33 m / 90.00 m x 8.15 m  x 3.75 m

Armament:
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1902 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1919 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 224 lbs / 101 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 25,833 shp / 19,272 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 226 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   99 - 130

Cost:
   £0.309 million / $1.236 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 2.3 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0.4 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 601 tons, 51.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 301 tons, 25.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 174 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 66 tons, 5.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     260 lbs / 118 Kg = 4.9 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
   Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.423
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.04 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.90 ft / 5.76 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.44 ft / 4.40 m (11.15 ft / 3.40 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      11.15 ft / 3.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   11.15 ft / 3.40 m
      - Stern:      11.15 ft / 3.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.17 ft / 3.71 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 189.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,933 Square feet or 458 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 51 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 136 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.06
      - Overall: 0.58
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Trial Speed: 31.96
Miscellaneous weights
25t- FC
16t- Torp
10t- short range wireless
15t- spare
---
66t

Note : Originally the 1500t Falke class, until the realization struck that 1500t DDs were beyond Bavarian tech at the time.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

Motor torpedo boats
Built        Type      #
H21919   1914-D  4
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest