Zestroer 1915

Started by Borys, December 16, 2008, 01:42:03 PM

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maddox

Actualy, bow to Korpen. It's a sleightly adapted Léopard hull- that 35kts super TB monster of his.

But Borys, are you ill or so?  No NEDS?

Tanthalas

Quote from: Borys on December 20, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
triples come with 1500 tonnes tech, no?
EDITED: No, they do not :D
And I bow to your superior skills.
Borys

hell Borys just build Sipans LOL (the NS would be happy to lisence the plans to you)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Borys

Quote from: maddox on December 20, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
But Borys, are you ill or so?  No NEDS?
I do feel myself a bot poorly ...
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Borys

I think this is passable:
Z-10, Habsburgs Zestroer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   999 t light; 1 034 t standard; 1 146 t normal; 1 236 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   310,00 ft / 310,00 ft x 29,10 ft x 9,00 ft (normal load)
   94,49 m / 94,49 m x 8,87 m  x 2,74 m

Armament:
      3 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 35,00lbs / 15,88kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      2 - 0,43" / 11,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,04lbs / 0,02kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 105 lbs / 48 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25 981 shp / 19 382 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 2 400nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 202 tons

Complement:
   98 - 128

Cost:
   £0,193 million / $0,774 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 628 tons, 54,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 334 tons, 29,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 147 tons, 12,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 2,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     321 lbs / 146 Kg = 10,0 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 1,3 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 10,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,494
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17,61 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,00 ft / 6,71 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (40%):      18,00 ft / 5,49 m (11,00 ft / 3,35 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
      - Stern:      11,00 ft / 3,35 m
      - Average freeboard:   14,12 ft / 4,30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89,3%
   Waterplane Area: 5 978 Square feet or 555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 52%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 131 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 2,20
      - Overall: 0,58
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Korpen

#19
Quote from: Borys on December 20, 2008, 01:17:01 PM
I think this is passable:
Yes, but there is room for improvment, such as lowering her seakeeping to about 1,0 at 31kts will allow for three knots more speed:
QuoteH-Class F, Netherlands Torpedoboot laid down 1912

Displacement:
   1 000 t light; 1 031 t standard; 1 147 t normal; 1 240 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   354,33 ft / 354,33 ft x 29,53 ft x 9,84 ft (normal load)
   108,00 m / 108,00 m x 9,00 m  x 3,00 m

Armament:
      3 - 4,02" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,38lbs / 14,69kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft
   Weight of broadside 97 lbs / 44 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32 709 shp / 24 401 Kw = 34,00 kts
   Range 2 500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 209 tons

Complement:
   98 - 128

Cost:
   £0,139 million / $0,555 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 668 tons, 58,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 294 tons, 25,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 147 tons, 12,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 2,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     219 lbs / 99 Kg = 6,8 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,27
   Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 11,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0,80

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,390
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (30 %):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m (7,94 ft / 2,42 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   7,94 ft / 2,42 m
      - Stern:      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   10,82 ft / 3,30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 198,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 6 406 Square feet or 595 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 42 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 130 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 0,82
      - Overall: 0,52
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather


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Borys

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!