ESC Destroyers 16-30 1915

Started by ledeper, November 29, 2008, 07:53:04 PM

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ledeper

Island-class batch 3 Dd 16-21, ESC Destroyer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1.000 t light; 1.079 t standard; 1.303 t normal; 1.482 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   327,59 ft / 324,80 ft x 29,53 ft x 11,48 ft (normal load)
   99,85 m / 99,00 m x 9,00 m  x 3,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (3x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 626 lbs / 284 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19.213 shp / 14.333 Kw = 28,85 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 403 tons

Complement:
   107 - 140

Cost:
   £0,252 million / $1,009 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 78 tons, 6,0 %
   Armour: 7 tons, 0,5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 7 tons, 0,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 519 tons, 39,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 356 tons, 27,3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 303 tons, 23,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 3,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     368 lbs / 167 Kg = 3,6 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,54
   Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
   Roll period: 9,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,19

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,414
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,02 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9,35 ft / 2,85 m
      - Stern:      9,35 ft / 2,85 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,90 ft / 3,63 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 177,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 5.955 Square feet or 553 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 59 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 152 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,44
      - Overall: 0,55
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

firecontrol 25t
radio 10t
torpedoes 5t

Sachmle

Isn't 15cm a little heavy for use on a DD at this point in time?
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ledeper

It was considered to develop a 115mm gun ,instead decided to use the new 150mm Quick firing gun as to keep uniformity in medium caliber guns. 

Sachmle

I only ask as I tried to put a 6" on one and was met w/ concerns over heavy shells and lively ships.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Borys

IMO 6" twins on such a vessel are ridiculous. The Narviks found such mounts barely usable, yet were almost three times as large.
But then again, I'm the Dilusional Grumpy ....
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

P3D

Yes, too large guns. Misc weight reserve could be higher too.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

ledeper

Island-class batch 3 Dd 16-21, BCS Destroyer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1.000 t light; 1.056 t standard; 1.278 t normal; 1.455 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   327,59 ft / 324,80 ft x 29,53 ft x 11,48 ft (normal load)
   99,85 m / 99,00 m x 9,00 m  x 3,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 4,92" / 125 mm guns (3x2 guns), 59,59lbs / 27,03kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 365 lbs / 166 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18.901 shp / 14.100 Kw = 28,85 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 399 tons

Complement:
   106 - 138

Cost:
   £0,219 million / $0,875 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 46 tons, 3,6 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0,4 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0,4 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 551 tons, 43,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 328 tons, 25,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 278 tons, 21,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 5,5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     380 lbs / 172 Kg = 6,4 x 4,9 " / 125 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49
   Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m
   Roll period: 9,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,406
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,02 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9,35 ft / 2,85 m
      - Stern:      9,35 ft / 2,85 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,90 ft / 3,63 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 5.925 Square feet or 550 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 66 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 141 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,37
      - Overall: 0,55
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

firecontrol 25t
radio 10t
torpedoes 5t
Reserve 30 t

Korpen

If i read the rules correctly, it seems twin mounts must have hoists.

Other then that, not a bad ship at all :)
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Jefgte

Hoists for T2 are better  ;)

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