Ship Designs of Logi (Some offical, some not)

Started by Logi, November 13, 2008, 09:45:44 PM

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Logi

QuoteMi, Reformist Chinese Mi Class laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   61,646 t light; 63,059 t standard; 67,000 t normal; 70,153 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   780.00 ft / 780.00 ft x 110.00 ft x 36.00 ft (normal load)
   237.74 m / 237.74 m x 33.53 m  x 10.97 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (4x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (4x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1914 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      64 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 612 lbs / 278 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   460.00 ft / 140.21 m   30.00 ft / 9.14 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   35.00 ft / 10.67 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   460.00 ft / 140.21 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
     Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm   0.50" / 13 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 7.00" / 178 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 124,283 shp / 92,715 Kw = 26.00 kts
   Range 7,563nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,094 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   2,081 - 2,706

Cost:
   £3.789 million / $15.158 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 77 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 7,328 tons, 10.9 %
      - Belts: 4,309 tons, 6.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 90 tons, 0.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,680 tons, 4.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 249 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 5,397 tons, 8.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,845 tons, 20.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,354 tons, 8.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 35,000 tons, 52.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     69,295 lbs / 31,432 Kg = 1,108.7 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 4.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01
   Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 19.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 40 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.759
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.93 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 30
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Mid (50 %):      24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Stern:      24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:   24.00 ft / 7.32 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 72,431 Square feet or 6,729 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 139 lbs/sq ft or 680 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Its a basically a Floating Drydock/Tender/Little Warship

It's supposed to operate in Battle Groups. The idea here is that it can be a flagship of a fleet and repair ships that are sinking during battle. For ex: If a ship is sinking froming losing a battle, this ship (with its battle group) can rush in to salvage it. There it can be repaired or scrapped. Oviously, the acutal ship doesn't have to be so large, but this was a design for large battleships (under 32,500 tons and around 650 ft long; 1,500 tons for repair materials then) it can be overlimited to under 34,000 tons and around 650~700 ft long but can't do anything to stored ship but transport it).

1,000 is naturally distributed to a ship cover (so as to protect the ship's insides/dock)

Logi

QuoteMi, Reformist China Mi laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,023 t standard; 1,110 t normal; 1,180 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   296.04 ft / 290.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)
   90.23 m / 88.39 m x 7.92 m  x 3.35 m

Armament:
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 10,000

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,823 shp / 19,264 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 2,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 157 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   95 - 124

Cost:
   £0.153 million / $0.611 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 607 tons, 54.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 193 tons, 17.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 110 tons, 9.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 18.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     149 lbs / 68 Kg = 2,391.0 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 13.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 30 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.468
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 69 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 78
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Mid (50 %):      7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Stern:      7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 195.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,885 Square feet or 454 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 45 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 118 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.54
      - Longitudinal: 0.57
      - Overall: 0.55
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability
Range at 31.00 kts 141nm

Extremely Fast Minelayer made for short missions, Minelayer goes at cruise speed when moving bases (accompanied by a tender). The Minelayer comes in two colors, Navy Blue or Midnight Black.

Tanthalas

Quote from: Logi on November 13, 2008, 09:45:44 PM
QuoteMi, Reformist Chinese Mi Class laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 124,283 shp / 92,715 Kw = 26.00 kts
   Range 7,563nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,094 tons (90% coal)

Cant do it man, well not at 26 knots anyway on the 1912 ngines your limited to 20k hp per shaft (or 80kshp on a 4 shaft ship)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

The Rock Doctor

Even if it were legal, the seakeeping is appalling on account of the high speed and low freeboard.

Logi

@Tan
I always forget to keep that... I'll fix it soon.

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on November 14, 2008, 06:31:56 AM
Even if it were legal, the seakeeping is appalling on account of the high speed and low freeboard.
Here, freeboard improved (slightly)

QuoteMi, Reformist China Mi laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1,004 t light; 1,027 t standard; 1,093 t normal; 1,146 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   300.08 ft / 290.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)
   91.47 m / 88.39 m x 7.92 m  x 3.35 m

Armament:
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 10,000

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,457 shp / 18,991 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 1,500nm at 12.00 kts
                115nm at 31.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 119 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   94 - 123

Cost:
   £0.152 million / $0.609 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 604 tons, 55.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 241 tons, 22.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 89 tons, 8.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 14.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     203 lbs / 92 Kg = 3,245.0 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.80

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.461
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Mid (50 %):      11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Stern:      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:   11.19 ft / 3.41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 194.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,855 Square feet or 451 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 46 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 119 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.44
      - Overall: 0.55
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Even better seakeeping on account of reduced payload (of mines).
QuoteMi, Reformist China Mi laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,023 t standard; 1,076 t normal; 1,119 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   301.24 ft / 290.00 ft x 26.00 ft x 11.00 ft (normal load)
   91.82 m / 88.39 m x 7.92 m  x 3.35 m

Armament:
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 10,000

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,093 shp / 18,719 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 1,200nm at 12.00 kts
                100nm at 31.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 96 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   93 - 122

Cost:
   £0.152 million / $0.608 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 602 tons, 56.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 288 tons, 26.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 76 tons, 7.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 10.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     240 lbs / 109 Kg = 3,847.7 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 12.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.454
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Mid (50 %):      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Stern:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:   13.19 ft / 4.02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,826 Square feet or 448 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 47 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 124 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.61
      - Overall: 0.59
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Logi

QuoteMaekma, People's Republic of China Code Class laid down 1914 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   14,619 t light; 14,995 t standard; 16,971 t normal; 18,553 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   563.73 ft / 550.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   171.82 m / 167.64 m x 18.29 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (8x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1914 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      16 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 217 lbs / 98 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   25.00 ft / 7.62 m
   Ends:   1.00" / 25 mm   190.00 ft / 57.91 m   45.00 ft / 13.72 m
   Upper:   2.00" / 51 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 98,453 shp / 73,446 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 10,900nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,558 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   743 - 966

Cost:
   £1.392 million / $5.568 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 3,900 tons, 23.0 %
      - Belts: 2,437 tons, 14.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 10 tons, 0.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,340 tons, 7.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 114 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,995 tons, 23.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,496 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,353 tons, 13.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2,200 tons, 13.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18,783 lbs / 8,520 Kg = 1,391.3 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.67

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.17 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.99 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      35.00 ft / 10.67 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   35.00 ft / 10.67 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Stern:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Average freeboard:   27.00 ft / 8.23 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,136 Square feet or 2,242 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 439 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 3.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Misc. Weight:
550X60 flight deck 400 tons
40 planes 10 tons
60,000 gal. Aviation Fuel 180 tons
Crew Comfort Items 510 tons
Aircraft Facilities and workshops 1000 tons
Long-Range Wireless 25 tons
75 tons Construction Reserve

Range      987nm at 30.00 kts
Range   1,528nm at 26.00 kts
Range   3,198nm at 20.00 kts
Range   6,589nm at 15.00 kts
Range 10,900nm at 12.00 kts


This ship is to travel with a battleship/battlecruiser to scout targets. Scouting out the targets allows battleships and battlecruisers to pinpoint enemy locations and fire with a greater accuracy. The ship is built fast so in the event of a defeat, it can escape speedily.

The Rock Doctor

I'd consider this unreasonably forward-thinking for a major naval power; more so for a modest and somewhat tech-challenged nation like RRC.

Starting the same way that came about historically - a few planes on a converted civilian ship - seems much more reasonable.  Probably more cost effective, too - 40 scouting planes would be overkill.

There are some recommended guidelines for designing carriers in SS - we'll be using those guidelines here, so I'll have to post them for those without reference to them.

Tanthalas

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on November 14, 2008, 08:03:01 PM
I'd consider this unreasonably forward-thinking for a major naval power; more so for a modest and somewhat tech-challenged nation like RRC.

Starting the same way that came about historically - a few planes on a converted civilian ship - seems much more reasonable.  Probably more cost effective, too - 40 scouting planes would be overkill.

There are some recommended guidelines for designing carriers in SS - we'll be using those guidelines here, so I'll have to post them for those without reference to them.

would these be the Wesworld Guidelines? I ask because the Italian Carrier was setup using them, and I intended to use them for finishing the conversion of that tuna class half carrier I have atm.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

P3D

The two Chinas have the most aeronautical experience of Nverse. The civil war also helped a lot. However, a carrier so early is anything but feasible.  Why build a cruiser to launch 40 fragile, short-ranged aircraft, when they are not really good at anything else?
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Logi

I see, I'll create an alternate version. It won't really be a carrier but will be built with the purpose of lanuching scout planes in mind.

Tanthalas

#10
Quote from: Logi on November 14, 2008, 08:27:59 PM
I see, I'll create an alternate version. It won't really be a carrier but will be built with the purpose of lanuching scout planes in mind.

You would be better served at this point in History building a "BC" that can be rebuilt as a carrier at a later date think along the lines of the british Glorious Class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_class_aircraft_carrier
it would be serviceable at the moment (if only Marginaly) and could be converted at a later date

somthing along these lines would actualy proly work (its just a fast and dirty so if it has rules issues sorry just an example)

Future CV, USNS Large Light Cruiser laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,371 t standard; 9,993 t normal; 11,291 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   551.00 ft / 551.00 ft x 72.00 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
   167.94 m / 167.94 m x 21.95 m  x 6.40 m

Armament:
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (4x2 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 2,048 lbs / 929 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 59,258 shp / 44,207 Kw = 29.13 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,920 tons

Complement:
   499 - 649

Cost:
   £1.051 million / $4.204 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 256 tons, 2.6 %
   Armour: 1,231 tons, 12.3 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 545 tons, 5.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 686 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 2,363 tons, 23.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,151 tons, 41.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,993 tons, 19.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,145 lbs / 5,509 Kg = 47.4 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 14.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.32
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.420
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.47 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   25.00 ft / 7.62 m (21.00 ft / 6.40 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m (13.00 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Stern:      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.80 ft / 5.43 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,730 Square feet or 2,297 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 563 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.46
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Logi

I was going to go with experimental ships but, I think I'll try that. Its much easier to work into the rpg.

QuoteDoun, RRC North Class laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   11,945 t light; 12,691 t standard; 15,120 t normal; 17,063 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   600.00 ft / 600.00 ft x 70.00 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
   182.88 m / 182.88 m x 21.34 m  x 6.40 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3 mounts), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised gun
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,292 lbs / 2,400 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 67,869 shp / 50,631 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,372 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   681 - 886

Cost:
   £1.764 million / $7.058 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 662 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 1,752 tons, 11.6 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 536 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,137 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 79 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2,947 tons, 19.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,024 tons, 39.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,175 tons, 21.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 560 tons, 3.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,103 lbs / 7,758 Kg = 19.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.82
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.30

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   30.00 ft / 9.14 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.00 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 30,718 Square feet or 2,854 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 635 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.48
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc. Weight: 560
250t Construction Reserve - FC
310t Construction Reserve

Logi

QuoteExperimental I, RRC Mass  laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   106 t light; 111 t standard; 132 t normal; 149 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   154.00 ft / 150.00 ft x 14.00 ft x 4.00 ft (normal load)
   46.94 m / 45.72 m x 4.27 m  x 1.22 m

Armament:
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 27 lbs / 12 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1,023 shp / 763 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 1,667nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 38 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   19 - 25

Cost:
   £0.016 million / $0.065 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 2.6 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 1.2 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 44 tons, 33.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 57 tons, 42.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 26 tons, 19.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     129 lbs / 58 Kg = 9.5 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 9.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.27 ft / 0.08 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Mid (50 %):      6.00 ft / 1.83 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Stern:      4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Average freeboard:   6.03 ft / 1.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 128.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,466 Square feet or 136 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 104 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.25
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Range 520nm at 18.00 kts

River/Coast Patrol Boat

Logi

QuoteExperimental II, RRC Mass  laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   109 t light; 111 t standard; 132 t normal; 148 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   154.00 ft / 150.00 ft x 14.00 ft x 5.00 ft (normal load)
   46.94 m / 45.72 m x 4.27 m  x 1.52 m

Armament:
      1 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline aft
   Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 5,000
   4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 964 shp / 719 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 1,667nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 37 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   19 - 25

Cost:
   £0.012 million / $0.049 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 42 tons, 31.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 53 tons, 40.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 17.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 10.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     138 lbs / 63 Kg = 2,209.5 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
   Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.440
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 38
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.27 ft / 0.08 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Mid (50 %):      6.00 ft / 1.83 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Stern:      4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Average freeboard:   6.03 ft / 1.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): -24.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,329 Square feet or 123 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.47
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc. Weight: 14t
4t Torpedoes (21")
5t Climatization
5t Medical Facilties

River/Coast Patrol Boat (Can be used for defense)