KKK light cruiser 1915 - worth it?

Started by Borys, November 03, 2008, 04:00:45 AM

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Borys

Guns are in the Japanese arrangement - back to back on bow, two wing guns, then small pyramid aft.
To make use of the new gun I developed.
Else is pretty much identical to the Marie Theresie ...

SMS KuK Schwantzlutscher, Habsburgs Kleiner Kreuzer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   4 091 t light; 4 245 t standard; 4 599 t normal; 4 882 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   390,00 ft / 390,00 ft x 44,00 ft x 18,50 ft (normal load)
   118,87 m / 118,87 m x 13,41 m  x 5,64 m

Armament:
      5 - 5,30" / 135 mm guns in single mounts, 75,00lbs / 34,02kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
      2 - 5,30" / 135 mm guns in single mounts, 75,00lbs / 34,02kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward
      2 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 0,98lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0,43" / 11,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,04lbs / 0,02kg shells, 1915 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 527 lbs / 239 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   319,00 ft / 97,23 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 126% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm         -         1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,20" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 38 283 shp / 28 559 Kw = 28,20 kts
   Range 6 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 637 tons (30% coal)

Complement:
   278 - 362

Cost:
   £0,608 million / $2,431 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 65 tons, 1,4%
   Armour: 754 tons, 16,4%
      - Belts: 465 tons, 10,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 16 tons, 0,3%
      - Armour Deck: 255 tons, 5,6%
      - Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0,4%
   Machinery: 1 569 tons, 34,1%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 552 tons, 33,7%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 508 tons, 11,0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 3,3%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 380 lbs / 1 533 Kg = 45,4 x 5,3 " / 135 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,6 m
   Roll period: 13,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,86 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25,00 ft / 7,62 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Mid (40%):      17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,43 ft / 5,31 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 125,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 92,9%
   Waterplane Area: 11 507 Square feet or 1 069 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 349 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,89
      - Longitudinal: 2,76
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

The Rock Doctor


Jefgte

For hands manipulation...?

then...why hoists...??


Jef ???
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Borys

The seventyfivepunder is for Fleet Cruisers and for Battleship secondaries - for shooting at unarmoured "torpedo delivery systems". Yet lethal enough not to be ignored by enemy fleet cruisers.
The 100 pounders will be retained on Trade Cruisers.

And yes, for hand operation.
The hoists are already there :)


Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

The Rock Doctor

Gotcha.  Well, she looks fine in all other respects. 

Borys

The OTL gun can be either the French 138mm from 1910, or the Russian 130mm (5,1"?) from 1913, as the main inspiration, the Italian 135mm, dates from the mid '30s.
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!