New Gran Colombian Ships for 1914

Started by The Rock Doctor, October 14, 2008, 06:04:17 PM

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The Rock Doctor

Truthfully, there aren't that many so far.



The Jose Alizandro class government service ship is essentially a small, self-propelled government office.  Two ships will be built; one will travel in a standard route around the Line and Marquesa Islands, while the other travels in a standard route around the Cook and Samoan islands, bringing the benefits of the modern Colombian bureaucracy to the isolated communities of the Colombian Pacific Territory.

Jose Alizandro, Government Service Ship, laid down 1912

Displacement:
   785 t light; 804 t standard; 958 t normal; 1,081 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   229.00 ft / 225.72 ft x 39.37 ft x 7.55 ft (normal load)
   69.80 m / 68.80 m x 12.00 m  x 2.30 m

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1,200 shp / 895 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 278 tons)

Complement:
   85 - 111

Cost:
   £0.034 million / $0.137 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 48 tons, 5.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 437 tons, 45.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 173 tons, 18.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 31.3 %
   -68 t:  Accommodations for seventeen staff
   -50 t:  Courtroom and brig
   -25 t:  Dental Office
   -25 t:  Medical Office
   -25 t:  Reception/Postal/Administrative Office
   -25 t:  Police Office
   -25 t:  Chapel
   -25 t:  Cargo
   -25 t:  Long-Range Wireless
   -7 t:  Weight Reserve


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,871 lbs / 1,756 Kg = 35.8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 13.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.73 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.02 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19.36 ft / 5.90 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Stern:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.64 ft / 5.07 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 51.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 217.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,921 Square feet or 550 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 242 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 210 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 6.24
      - Overall: 1.01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

The Rock Doctor

This water tanker - not yet named - will be based in Pago Pago, and will be used to transport water to inhabit Pacific islands suffering from drought - a not-infrequent occurrence.

Water tanker, laid down 1912

Displacement:
   478 t light; 494 t standard; 799 t normal; 1,043 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   203.14 ft / 196.85 ft x 32.81 ft x 7.87 ft (normal load)
   61.92 m / 60.00 m x 10.00 m  x 2.40 m

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 624 ihp / 465 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 549 tons)
   -1/3 of bunkerage = sub-waterline water tankage

Complement:
   74 - 97

Cost:
   £0.023 million / $0.090 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 41 tons, 5.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 288 tons, 36.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 321 tons, 40.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 149 tons, 18.6 %
   -300 t:  Freshwater tankage
   -25 t:  Long-range wireless
   -7 t:  Weight reserve

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,658 lbs / 1,659 Kg = 33.9 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   17.06 ft / 5.20 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Stern:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   13.91 ft / 4.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 38.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,507 Square feet or 419 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 345 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 37 lbs/sq ft or 178 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 5.17
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Jefgte

These 2 classes of ships are not armed & use for civil work.
They are in the civil budget.


Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

I contemplated that, but they are government ships, so I'm taking them from the military budget.  Since they're built to merchantile standards, they're really not very expensive at all.

Guinness

There's a difference between the military and civilian budgets of GC?

*ducks volleys from the south*

Tanthalas

Quote from: guinness on October 15, 2008, 07:39:17 AM
There's a difference between the military and civilian budgets of GC?

*ducks volleys from the south*

ofcourse there is (one is larger than the other)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

The Rock Doctor

One budget goes towards guns; the other budget mostly lawyers.  I'll let you decide which budget is more dangerous.

The Rock Doctor

The Iscuande class patrol sloops have provided mostly satisfactory service over the past few years, but one short-coming has become evident with those units operating in the Pacific:  inadequate bunkerage for the long haul between the Pacific Territories and the West Coast.

A new class of sloops is to be built specifically with Pacific operations in mind.  Their operating range is considerably greater than that of the Iscuande class, and the main armament is heavier.  The light armor found in the Iscuandes has been omitted here.



Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   775 t light; 804 t standard; 1,098 t normal; 1,333 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   228.93 ft / 223.10 ft x 32.81 ft x 10.50 ft (normal load)
   69.78 m / 68.00 m x 10.00 m  x 3.20 m

Armament:
      2 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
      1 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
      2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 64 lbs / 29 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   2 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,500 shp / 4,103 Kw = 20.35 kts
   Range 11,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 529 tons)

Complement:
   94 - 123

Cost:
   £0.086 million / $0.343 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 8 tons, 0.7 %
   Armour: 7 tons, 0.6 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 7 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 239 tons, 21.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 429 tons, 39.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 323 tons, 29.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 92 tons, 8.4 %
   -25 t:  Long Range Wireless
   -25 t:  Fire Control
   -24 t:  Accommodation for 12 marine constables
   -10 t:  Steam launch and derrick
   -4 t:  2x6 Depth Charges
   -2 t:  Torpedoes
   -2 t:  Weight Reserve
   

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,126 lbs / 965 Kg = 69.7 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
   Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 11.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.94 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.94 ft / 1.20 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      19.69 ft / 6.00 m (11.81 ft / 3.60 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Stern:      11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.91 ft / 4.85 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 123.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,877 Square feet or 453 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 171 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 42 lbs/sq ft or 205 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 7.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Korpen

Considering the height of the freeboard and her draft I think she will work fine as an open sea vessel. Are the marines intended to depart the ship for extended periods? As otherwise they are usually included as part of the regular crew.
Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

The Rock Doctor

I figured the marines might be in excess of usual crew figures; if not, the space can always be used for rescued survivors or other people.

The Rock Doctor

For those of you following the GC 2/14 news, this is what Capitan de Fregata San Martino saw when he looked at a sketch of his next assignment.


P3D

Mind you, that's a very small Zeppelin.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

The Rock Doctor

Its dimensions are approximately the same as the small non-rigid types used by the British in WW1, so it'd be a Type 0 in our lingo.

maddox

Arg, You are first Rocky.
I wanted to build an airship carrier.

Now I'll have to "improvice".

The Rock Doctor