Baltic Battleship Project

[ledeper]

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1914

Displacement:
   35.818 t light; 37.978 t standard; 40.727 t normal; 42.926 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,91 ft / 716,86 ft x 108,27 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   219,73 m / 218,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      12 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.674,25lbs / 759,43kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21.746 lbs / 9.864 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   28,08 ft / 8,56 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 78.428 shp / 58.507 Kw = 25,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.948 tons

Complement:
   1.433 - 1.863

Cost:
   £5,040 million / $20,160 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.718 tons, 6,7 %
   Armour: 12.900 tons, 31,7 %
      - Belts: 4.816 tons, 11,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.100 tons, 2,7 %
      - Armament: 3.518 tons, 8,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 3.165 tons, 7,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 301 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 3.021 tons, 7,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 16.678 tons, 41,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.910 tons, 12,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,2 %

        F.C 250t
        Listening ears 50t
        Large Marconi 50t
        Night-fighting gear 50 t
        Reserve 100 t

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     52.389 lbs / 23.763 Kg = 31,3 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells or 8,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,622
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,02 ft / 6,41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 57.940 Square feet or 5.383 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 217 lbs/sq ft or 1.058 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,27
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good sea boat, rides out heavy weather easily

Armour
Outward slope 15 dg 350mm equals 410mm
Engines:
2 inner shafts driven by Diesels for Cruising
2 outer shafts Turbine driven

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Secondaries will be massacred ...
Borys

[ledeper]

2nd:   0,98" / 25 mm          ;D

[Jefgte]

Secondary 25mm...

IMO, too short

16 - 8x2 ...are they turrets & barbettes ?


Jef

[ledeper]

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1914

Displacement:
   35.818 t light; 37.978 t standard; 40.727 t normal; 42.926 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,91 ft / 716,86 ft x 108,27 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   219,73 m / 218,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      12 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.674,25lbs / 759,43kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21.746 lbs / 9.864 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   28,08 ft / 8,56 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,98" / 25 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 78.428 shp / 58.507 Kw = 25,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.948 tons

Complement:
   1.433 - 1.863

Cost:
   £5,040 million / $20,160 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.718 tons, 6,7 %
   Armour: 12.928 tons, 31,7 %
      - Belts: 4.816 tons, 11,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.100 tons, 2,7 %
      - Armament: 3.546 tons, 8,7 %
      - Armour Deck: 3.165 tons, 7,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 301 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 3.021 tons, 7,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 16.651 tons, 40,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.910 tons, 12,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     52.396 lbs / 23.766 Kg = 31,3 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells or 8,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,622
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,02 ft / 6,41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 57.940 Square feet or 5.383 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 216 lbs/sq ft or 1.057 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,27
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Armour
Outward slope 15 dg 350mm equals 410mm
Engines:
2 innershafts driven by Diesels for Cruising
2 outershafts Turbine driven

[The Rock Doctor]

I'd suggest hoists for the secondaries.

[ledeper]

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1914

Displacement:
   35.818 t light; 37.978 t standard; 40.727 t normal; 42.926 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,91 ft / 716,86 ft x 108,27 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   219,73 m / 218,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      12 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.674,25lbs / 759,43kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21.746 lbs / 9.864 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   28,08 ft / 8,56 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 78.428 shp / 58.507 Kw = 25,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.948 tons

Complement:
   1.433 - 1.863

Cost:
   £5,040 million / $20,160 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.718 tons, 6,7 %
   Armour: 12.900 tons, 31,7 %
      - Belts: 4.816 tons, 11,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.100 tons, 2,7 %
      - Armament: 3.518 tons, 8,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 3.165 tons, 7,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 301 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 3.021 tons, 7,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 16.678 tons, 41,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.910 tons, 12,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     52.140 lbs / 23.650 Kg = 31,1 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells or 8,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,74
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,622
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,02 ft / 6,41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 57.940 Square feet or 5.383 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 217 lbs/sq ft or 1.058 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,26
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Armour
Outward slope 15 dg 350mm equals 410mm
Engines:
2 innershafts driven by Diesels for Cruising
2 outershafts Turbine driven

[Jefgte]

 "
Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   28,08 ft / 8,56 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
  2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm          -               -

Ends unarmoured...

Another Lutzow ?

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- Forecastle (10 %):    21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m


A turret is 25m from the bow...

Really very short



Jef

[maddox]

I think I'll have to re-invent Yamashiro.

[Jefgte]

Yam...
Very nice BB

[P3D]

Get engine years correct.

12' high belt is on the narrow side, esp if it is inclined, there's a big gap where a plunging shell hit can get under the belt.

[Korpen]

Why so high speed? If working with the older ships she will be tied to 22,5kts in any case, and you could save several thousand tons on reducing speed a bit.

[ledeper]

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   35.829 t light; 37.995 t standard; 40.989 t normal; 43.384 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,91 ft / 716,86 ft x 108,27 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   219,73 m / 218,50 m x 33,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      12 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.674,25lbs / 759,43kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (8x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21.746 lbs / 9.864 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   14,11 ft / 4,30 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4,92" / 125 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,97" / 50 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   28,08 ft / 8,56 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   7,87" / 200 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 67.434 shp / 50.306 Kw = 24,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5.389 tons

Complement:
   1.439 - 1.872

Cost:
   £4,981 million / $19,925 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.718 tons, 6,6 %
   Armour: 13.418 tons, 32,7 %
      - Belts: 5.321 tons, 13,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.100 tons, 2,7 %
      - Armament: 3.518 tons, 8,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 3.177 tons, 7,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 303 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 2.689 tons, 6,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 16.504 tons, 40,3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.160 tons, 12,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     54.622 lbs / 24.776 Kg = 32,6 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells or 8,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,33

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,626
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,02 ft / 6,41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 58.155 Square feet or 5.403 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 214 lbs/sq ft or 1.044 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,27
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Armour
Outward slope 15 dg 350mm equals 410mm
Engines:
2 inner shafts driven by Diesels for Cruising
2 outer shafts Turbine driven
Misc weigth:
FC 250t
Large Marconi 50t
"Listening Ears" 50t
Nigth-figthing gear 50t
Reserve 100t