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[Blooded]

Hello,

Here is what I have been upto lately, when I get spare time.






I think #2 should get me the ugly ship award!

[Tanthalas]

I was thinkin it looked kinda Classy tbh

[maddox]

I like number 2. 

This is how I see her.
Pity she doesn't carry FC, but the weight for that is allocated in this design

General Loupe, French  X-class BB laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   10.998 t light; 11.773 t standard; 13.516 t normal; 14.910 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   430,00 ft / 430,00 ft x 82,00 ft x 20,64 ft (normal load)
   131,06 m / 131,06 m x 24,99 m  x 6,29 m

Armament:
      6 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns (2x3 guns), 947,99lbs / 430,00kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all aft
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 5.977 lbs / 2.711 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   327,60 ft / 99,85 m   10,25 ft / 3,12 m
   Ends:   4,00" / 102 mm     92,38 ft / 28,16 m   10,25 ft / 3,12 m
     10,02 ft / 3,05 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   4,00" / 102 mm   327,60 ft / 99,85 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 117% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,25" / 32 mm   327,60 ft / 99,85 m   23,00 ft / 7,01 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      12,0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8,00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16.879 shp / 12.592 Kw = 19,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.137 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   626 - 814

Cost:
   £1,355 million / $5,418 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 685 tons, 5,1%
   Armour: 4.561 tons, 33,7%
      - Belts: 2.328 tons, 17,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 348 tons, 2,6%
      - Armament: 787 tons, 5,8%
      - Armour Deck: 999 tons, 7,4%
      - Conning Tower: 98 tons, 0,7%
   Machinery: 740 tons, 5,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4.692 tons, 34,7%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.517 tons, 18,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 2,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21.485 lbs / 9.745 Kg = 24,8 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 4,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24
   Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m
   Roll period: 14,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,34
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,650
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -5,00 ft / -1,52 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25,00 ft / 7,62 m
      - Forecastle (18%):   21,00 ft / 6,40 m
      - Mid (50%):      21,00 ft / 6,40 m (6,45 ft / 1,97 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (10%):   6,45 ft / 1,97 m
      - Stern:      6,45 ft / 1,97 m
      - Average freeboard:   14,01 ft / 4,27 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,2%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106,2%
   Waterplane Area: 27.011 Square feet or 2.509 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 666 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,94
      - Longitudinal: 1,64
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250 tons FC.
70 tons crew comfort.

[Borys]

Yes, #2 wins the Fugliest Ship Afloat award hands down!
:)
Borys

[maddox]

Indomptable, UNK Heavy cruiser laid down 1914 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   15.323 t light; 16.018 t standard; 17.542 t normal; 18.762 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557,78 ft / 551,18 ft x 78,74 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
   170,01 m / 168,00 m x 24,00 m  x 7,00 m

Armament:
      8 - 9,40" / 239 mm guns (4x2 guns), 415,29lbs / 188,37kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 9,40" / 239 mm guns (2x2 guns), 415,29lbs / 188,37kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 4.984 lbs / 2.260 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   12 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   358,27 ft / 109,20 m   10,65 ft / 3,25 m
   Ends:   3,00" / 76 mm   192,89 ft / 58,79 m   10,65 ft / 3,25 m
   Upper:   4,00" / 102 mm   358,27 ft / 109,20 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   5,00" / 127 mm      6,00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   5,00" / 127 mm      6,00" / 152 mm

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8,00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 79.980 shp / 59.665 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 7.600nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2.744 tons

Complement:
   761 - 990

Cost:
   £1,880 million / $7,518 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 623 tons, 3,6%
   Armour: 4.407 tons, 25,1%
      - Belts: 1.718 tons, 9,8%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 1.380 tons, 7,9%
      - Armour Deck: 1.192 tons, 6,8%
      - Conning Tower: 116 tons, 0,7%
   Machinery: 2.980 tons, 17,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6.913 tons, 39,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.219 tons, 12,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 2,3%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     23.365 lbs / 10.598 Kg = 56,3 x 9,4 " / 239 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
   Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 16,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,616
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,70 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,22 ft / 8,60 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Stern:      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   22,77 ft / 6,94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,9%
   Waterplane Area: 32.219 Square feet or 2.993 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 716 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,94
      - Longitudinal: 1,76
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

[Guinness]

Just awesome. These raise the bar for your fellow illustrators around here.

I like the second one. It's different, but still looks right for the period, and very British. She's a monitor I'm guessing?

[Blooded]

Hello,

Yes, Its planned as a coastal defense/escort ship, similar to what Maddox simmed.  I am still working on it. I'll send the file.

[P3D]

On #2.

25' is a bit too large draught for a CDS. Due to to hull lines, I doubt you could fit four shafts (not if you really need it). Such a huge midships break would result in a very weak hull.

[Blooded]

What would be a good draught? 22? 20? Had not thought about hull strength, ooops.

[The Rock Doctor]

Awesome drawings, even if I don't understand the logic behind the CDS layout.  I think with that low freeboard aft, you'd end up taking water aboard on the open ocean.

[Langsdorf]

What are stats on the torpedoboat?

[Blooded]

Here is the Torpedo Boat, it is listed in the UNK Section, I have built quite a few. The other two were still undergoing work. As to the Coastal Defence Ship, I had wanted to get the smallest displacement that could load 4x15". It let me keep the belt small, but still gave some seakeeping and steadiness.

Intrepid Class, United Norman Kingdom Torpedo Boat laid down 1911 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   284 t light; 292 t standard; 336 t normal; 371 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   230.00 ft / 230.00 ft x 19.16 ft x 6.67 ft (normal load)
   70.10 m / 70.10 m x 5.84 m  x 2.03 m

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline forward
      2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.30lbs / 1.50kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1906 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
   Weight of broadside 20 lbs / 9 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   3 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,312 shp / 8,439 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 1,631nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 78 tons

Complement:
   39 - 51

Cost:
   £0.038 million / $0.152 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 185 tons, 55.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 94 tons, 28.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 52 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3 tons, 0.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     85 lbs / 39 Kg = 6.3 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 9.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.64

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 79
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -5.00 ft / -1.52 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Mid (22 %):      10.00 ft / 3.05 m (8.00 ft / 2.44 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (39 %):   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Stern:      6.00 ft / 1.83 m
      - Average freeboard:   7.54 ft / 2.30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 184.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,713 Square feet or 252 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 36 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 92 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.08
      - Overall: 0.54
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Cost: $0.35  0.28BP
Misc.Weight(3 Tons):
3 Tons Torpedos(3+0 Reloads)

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Here is how it was...

Formidable Class, United Kingdom of America Coastal Battleship laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   11,057 t light; 11,709 t standard; 13,104 t normal; 14,220 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   420.00 ft / 420.00 ft x 76.00 ft (Bulges 84.00 ft) x 20.00 ft (normal load)
   128.02 m / 128.02 m x 23.16 m (Bulges 25.60 m)  x 6.10 m

Armament:
      4 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1,920.00lbs / 870.90kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all aft
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.30lbs / 1.50kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      2 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,145 lbs / 3,695 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 85

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   281.00 ft / 85.65 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   139.00 ft / 42.37 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      2.50" / 64 mm   281.00 ft / 85.65 m   23.25 ft / 7.09 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      10.7" / 271 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13,855 shp / 10,336 Kw = 18.07 kts
   Range 7,507nm at 13.40 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,511 tons

Complement:
   612 - 796

Cost:
   £1.345 million / $5.379 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 915 tons, 7.0 %
   Armour: 4,351 tons, 33.2 %
      - Belts: 1,804 tons, 13.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 604 tons, 4.6 %
      - Armament: 668 tons, 5.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,131 tons, 8.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 144 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 552 tons, 4.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,989 tons, 38.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,047 tons, 15.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,263 lbs / 7,830 Kg = 10.2 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 4.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 16.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.650
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.00 ft / -1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.50 ft / 7.16 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.50 ft / 6.25 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.50 ft / 6.25 m (5.00 ft / 1.52 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (19 %):   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Stern:      5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.99 ft / 3.96 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,453 Square feet or 2,272 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 154 lbs/sq ft or 752 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.60
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Cost: $10.33   10.33BP  19.4 Months   
Misc. Weight(250 Tons):
250 Tons Fire Control Equipment
Small Wireless Set and Aerials