Pocket Cruiser (Frigate Variety)

Started by Logi, September 11, 2008, 05:32:46 PM

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Logi

Quote?, ? Pocket Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   5,561 t light; 5,876 t standard; 6,173 t normal; 6,411 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   310.00 ft / 310.00 ft x 64.00 ft (Bulges 66.00 ft) x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   94.49 m / 94.49 m x 19.51 m (Bulges 20.12 m)  x 7.32 m

Armament:
      6 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (2x3 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2,185 lbs / 991 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   160.00 ft / 48.77 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   150.00 ft / 45.72 m   30.00 ft / 9.14 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   160.00 ft / 48.77 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 79 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1.00" / 25 mm   310.00 ft / 94.49 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13,182 shp / 9,834 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range    927nm at 20.00 kts
   Range 1,786nm at 16.00 kts
   Range 2,572nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 535 tons

Complement:
   347 - 452

Cost:
   £0.538 million / $2.150 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 273 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 2,208 tons, 35.8 %
      - Belts: 1,474 tons, 23.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 149 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 215 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 348 tons, 5.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 491 tons, 8.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,339 tons, 37.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 612 tons, 9.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 4.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,539 lbs / 4,780 Kg = 41.2 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.51

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.440
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.61 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -2.00 ft / -0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.00 ft / 6.10 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,554 Square feet or 1,166 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 549 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 4.95
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Note:


A stab at small ships. Based on USS Texas (1892) the United State's first battleship. I take any helpful suggestions other than making it bigger.

Jefgte

Not a bad ship for coastal operations

suggests:
- reduce the thickness belt to 102-127max
- increase the lenght of the belt
- increase slightly the speed (20kts are short in 1913)
- increase the Lenght to Beam ratio
- with 20' the freeboard is certainly too high
- ...

finaly, a reduce of the 6000t Escort Cruiser Tupac Yupanqui from Peru



Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Guinness

Since her main armament is already 8", I'd consider losing the 6" guns for something a little smaller and handier, if you are worried about anti-torpedo boat armament.

Tanthalas

Quote from: guinness on September 11, 2008, 06:14:08 PM
Since her main armament is already 8", I'd consider losing the 6" guns for something a little smaller and handier, if you are worried about anti-torpedo boat armament.


if ya got em id say use 5" for secondaries, they are about as big as im comfortable with as a QF gun
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Logi

I have schoolwork to do, so I'll fix it up later.

Quote

if ya got em id say use 5" for secondaries, they are about as big as im comfortable with as a QF gun
QuoteSince her main armament is already 8", I'd consider losing the 6" guns for something a little smaller and handier, if you are worried about anti-torpedo boat armament.

Yea, I noticed that part after I finished the design. I was going to change the guns to 5"-4" QFs

QuoteNot a bad ship for coastal operations

suggests:
- reduce the thickness belt to 102-127max
- increase the lenght of the belt
- increase slightly the speed (20kts are short in 1913)
- increase the Lenght to Beam ratio
- with 20' the freeboard is certainly too high
- ...

finaly, a reduce of the 6000t Escort Cruiser Tupac Yupanqui from Peru

I was thinking of a certain ship while making it. I'll reduce belt to 127mm and increase the belt length to say 200ft (Just noticed that it didn't cover minimal engineering spaces).
I was going with the Battleship Texas for the dimensions (Just rounded the figures up) I saw no problem with the L:B ratio as I have planned for it to go at a relatively slow pace. I will lower the freeboard.

The Rock Doctor

What are the intended functions of this ship?  What opponents is it expected to fight?

Logi

Basically its a small ship that is designed to sink cruisers. If it were surrounded by enemy ships, it had to withstand the barrage while firing her guns (for some time) before sinking.

Btw: Rocky does the L:B ratio impact it a lot at 20kts? I'll change it to around 5.5:1 if its no good. I just figured at that speed, it wouldn't have much of an effect.

Tanthalas

Quote from: Logi on September 12, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
Basically its a small ship that is designed to sink cruisers. If it were surrounded by enemy ships, it had to withstand the barrage while firing her guns (for some time) before sinking.

Btw: Rocky does the L:B ratio impact it a lot at 20kts? I'll change it to around 5.5:1 if its no good. I just figured at that speed, it wouldn't have much of an effect.

other tan making your crew seasick not realy
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

miketr

Quote from: Logi on September 12, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
Basically its a small ship that is designed to sink cruisers. If it were surrounded by enemy ships, it had to withstand the barrage while firing her guns (for some time) before sinking.

Btw: Rocky does the L:B ratio impact it a lot at 20kts? I'll change it to around 5.5:1 if its no good. I just figured at that speed, it wouldn't have much of an effect.

The problem is with that speed she is some very bad issues in a fight.  She can only outrun old VTE warships not even all of those.  A modern BB could run her down and then pound her into a wreck, let alone the AC/BC's out there. 

Now lets look at your stated mission cruiser killer.  She has the firepower and armor to take on protected cruisers but she is 7 to 10 knots too slow for ships of this generation.  She can't catch them and if they come after her in numbers she can't outrun them.  What you have here is a very small coastal defence battleship; however, you don't have a huge amount of firepower.

If you improve the B:L it will increase the speed you get on the same SHP and displacement. 

What I suggest you do is look back at your mission.  You want to kill cruisers, cruisers are fast so thats your first requirement.  So want 28 to 31 knots if you want to be faster than the fastest cruisers on the drawing boards / that have been laid down.  That might be hard on that displacement and have anything left over for weapons and armor.  If you push the displacement up could you afford to build it? 

Also looking at your tech  you can't build this ship anyways.  It requires 1904 BB/AC tech.  Its the 8" gun on a turret.

If you want a cruiser I suggest you settle for a straight forward light cruiser, armed with 6" weapons, 28 knots and some torpedo's.  If you want a firepower edge I suggest 7.5" weapons.  You should be able to fit 3 or 4 on 5,500 tons and still get a good turn of speed.

Michael     

Jefgte

Testing a 5000t Pocket Cruiser or Escort Cruiser

5000T , xxx Pocket Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   5 000 t light; 5 265 t standard; 5 866 t normal; 6 347 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   390.42 ft / 390.42 ft x 62.34 ft x 15.48 ft (normal load)
   119.00 m / 119.00 m x 19.00 m  x 4.72 m

Armament:
      4 - 7.99" / 203 mm guns (2x2 guns), 255.24lbs / 115.78kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1 664 lbs / 755 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18.0" / 457 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   223.10 ft / 68.00 m   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm   144.36 ft / 44.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     22.97 ft / 7.00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   2.99" / 76 mm   223.10 ft / 68.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m
     Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.02" / 102 mm   2.01" / 51 mm      2.99" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.18" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 4.02" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 21 800 shp / 16 263 Kw = 23.25 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 082 tons

Complement:
   334 - 435

Cost:
   £0.514 million / $2.057 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 208 tons, 3.5 %
   Armour: 1 442 tons, 24.6 %
      - Belts: 872 tons, 14.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 172 tons, 2.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 369 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 869 tons, 14.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 230 tons, 38.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 866 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 4.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8 821 lbs / 4 001 Kg = 34.6 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.545
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.26 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   18.70 ft / 5.70 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Quarterdeck (16 %):   15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Stern:      15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.84 ft / 5.13 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 16 905 Square feet or 1 571 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 455 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 1.99
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Logi

Quote from: miketr on September 12, 2008, 03:36:03 PM

The problem is with that speed she is some very bad issues in a fight.  She can only outrun old VTE warships not even all of those.  A modern BB could run her down and then pound her into a wreck, let alone the AC/BC's out there. 

Now lets look at your stated mission cruiser killer.  She has the firepower and armor to take on protected cruisers but she is 7 to 10 knots too slow for ships of this generation.  She can't catch them and if they come after her in numbers she can't outrun them.  What you have here is a very small coastal defence battleship; however, you don't have a huge amount of firepower.
If you improve the B:L it will increase the speed you get on the same SHP and displacement. 

What I suggest you do is look back at your mission.  You want to kill cruisers, cruisers are fast so thats your first requirement.  So want 28 to 31 knots if you want to be faster than the fastest cruisers on the drawing boards / that have been laid down.  That might be hard on that displacement and have anything left over for weapons and armor.  If you push the displacement up could you afford to build it? 

Also looking at your tech  you can't build this ship anyways.  It requires 1904 BB/AC tech.  Its the 8" gun on a turret.

If you want a cruiser I suggest you settle for a straight forward light cruiser, armed with 6" weapons, 28 knots and some torpedo's.  If you want a firepower edge I suggest 7.5" weapons.  You should be able to fit 3 or 4 on 5,500 tons and still get a good turn of speed.

Michael     

There are few things to note:
1. I'm not Ireland anymore, if I was I would have put a H1 report already.
2. Its really a design study, let's not complicate it with discussions about tech levels
3. I don't want a cruiser, I want a pocket cruiser :-\ Also, if I wanted to catch up with the fastest cruisers, I would build a speed freak. (Which wouldn't have much firepower)
4.
QuoteMachinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 26,428 shp / 19,716 Kw = 20.18 kts
   Range 6,330nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,781 tons
If I went with the CSa battleship of 1912, its not that behind in speed.

Also, what's B:L? I was only aware of block coefficient and length:beam ratio.
Reconsidering my mission, i think i'll opt for more firepower. The slug it out ship. I'm also trying to avoid upping my ships displacement too much.

Logi

Quote?, ? Pocket Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   5,945 t light; 6,290 t standard; 6,741 t normal; 7,102 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   330.00 ft / 330.00 ft x 63.00 ft (Bulges 65.00 ft) x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   100.58 m / 100.58 m x 19.20 m (Bulges 19.81 m)  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (2x4 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (6x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2,433 lbs / 1,104 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   230.00 ft / 70.10 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Ends:   1.50" / 38 mm   100.00 ft / 30.48 m   29.00 ft / 8.84 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   230.00 ft / 70.10 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1.00" / 25 mm   330.00 ft / 100.58 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21,720 shp / 16,203 Kw = 22.50 kts
   Range 3,872nm at 14.00 kts
   Range 2,709nm at 16.00 kts
   Range 1,424nm at 20.00 kts
   Range    991nm at 22.50 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 812 tons

Complement:
   371 - 483

Cost:
   £0.629 million / $2.517 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 304 tons, 4.5 %
   Armour: 2,191 tons, 32.5 %
      - Belts: 1,418 tons, 21.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 183 tons, 2.7 %
      - Armament: 202 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 365 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 23 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 809 tons, 12.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,370 tons, 35.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 797 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 270 tons, 4.0 %
      -250t Fire Control
      -20t Torpedoes (20)

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,765 lbs / 3,522 Kg = 30.3 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 15.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.440
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.08 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -2.00 ft / -0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.50 ft / 4.72 m
      - Stern:      16.50 ft / 5.03 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.75 ft / 4.80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,155 Square feet or 1,222 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 113 lbs/sq ft or 551 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 3.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Major Modifications:
   +increased belt length to 230 ft
   +increased L:B ratio to 5:1 (increased length of ship by 20 ft)
   +increased max speed to 22.5 kts (also increased range)
   +added 4x18" torpedoes tubes submerged (20 torpedoes aboard)
   +increased number of main guns to 8 (2x4)
   +increased number of secondary by double (twin mounts)
   +increased number of MG by double (twin guns)
   -reduced belt thickness
   -lowered freeboard
   -decreased floatation from 10.5k to 7.7k (not intentionally)
   -reduced beam by 1 ft

Tanthalas

my advice on ships Logi (having developed 2 compleatly diferent fleets for the sim) would be look at your potential oponents, think about how they fight, and think about what your objectives would be in a conflict.

Ill give you an example using the NS (I Know who I could be at war with instantly)

DKD: Armor and speed over firepower (under the previous player)
Austria: armor and firepower over speed
Spain: armor and speed over firepower
France: armor and firepower over speed (fighting them would be a bad idea but it could happen)
Maoria: armor and Firepower over speed
Netherlands: speed and firepower over armor

I am atempting to strike a balance of armor and speed over firepower (without hurting firepower to badly).  I would advise you to compile a list like this then let it guide you.

Like all my advice this is free unsolicited and can be ignored
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Logi

Well, I made a different pocket cruiser before I read your post Tan, so I might as well post it here. Its a slow... very slow... ship.

Quote?, ? Pocket Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   7,749 t light; 8,257 t standard; 8,844 t normal; 9,313 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   351.22 ft / 350.00 ft x 64.00 ft (Bulges 67.00 ft) x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   107.05 m / 106.68 m x 19.51 m (Bulges 20.42 m)  x 7.32 m

Armament:
      8 - 11.00" / 279 mm guns (6 mounts), 665.50lbs / 301.87kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (8x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,837 lbs / 2,648 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   330.00 ft / 100.58 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1.00" / 25 mm   330.00 ft / 100.58 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,666 shp / 7,957 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 2,099nm at 18.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,056 tons

Complement:
   455 - 592

Cost:
   £1.025 million / $4.101 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 730 tons, 8.2 %
   Armour: 3,352 tons, 37.9 %
      - Belts: 2,100 tons, 23.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 183 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 463 tons, 5.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 578 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 397 tons, 4.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,010 tons, 34.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,095 tons, 12.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 260 tons, 2.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,537 lbs / 4,326 Kg = 14.3 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.22 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 38
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -1.40 ft / -0.43 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Mid (50 %):      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,633 Square feet or 1,452 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 626 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.61
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Tanthalas

"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War