Egyptian Design Studies 1912-1913

[The Rock Doctor]

Foxy can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the three Kuffrah class battleships and the ex-CSA TR-113 group were both sold to New Zion.  If so, New Zion presumeably gave you something for them around 1914 or so.

I suspect the 1881 torpedo-boats might have been scrapped by now - they'd be hopelessly obsolete.

[ciders]

I suspect the 1881 torpedo-boats might have been scrapped by now - they'd be hopelessly obsolete.

Yep. But, as we say in France, " on fait avec ce qu'on a ".  ;)

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Foxy can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the three Kuffrah class battleships and the ex-CSA TR-113 group were both sold to New Zion

The TR-113 were sold to CSA. This is the one thing I'm totally sure.

[maddox]

We do it with what we have

We doen het met wat we hebben.

well put Ciders

[Guinness]

Talos made a deal to send back 6 TR-113s (which the plan was to scrap) and cash in exchange for 6 A-class boats (3 refit, 3 not refit) and 2 E-class boats, with options to buy up to 4 more, which he subsequently exercised for 2 more.

The TR-113s were indeed originally sold to NZ. I believe they were part of the big ship swap between NZ and Egypt then NZ and the Ottomans that resulted in Confederate pre-dreads sailing with the Ottomans during the last Crusade.

[The Rock Doctor]

Okay, so I'm thinking that Egypt would benefit from:

-Minesweepers
-Submarine chasers/patrol boats
-Refits to the Campeons, and possibly others
-New destroyers to supplement your few modern units

For auxiliaries:

-A couple of transports could be handy
-Possibly a couple of tenders, as noted
-A royal yacht might keep the king from constantly borrowing your warships
-A couple of older ships assigned to training duties

[Guinness]

Egypt probably could use a small number (say 4) of modern submarines too. There's lots of choke points in the Med where a sub might be useful in smiting Egypts enemies.

[Korpen]

Egypt probably could use a small number (say 4) of modern submarines too. There's lots of choke points in the Med where a sub might be useful in smiting Egypts enemies.

You forgot the zero. As I guess you meant 40, not just 4?

-one can never have too many submarines.

[Desertfox]

I bought 4 ex-CSA BBs, and 21 TR-113 class DDs. I then sold 2 BBs to the Ottomans, and traded the other 2 and 6 TR-113s to Egypt in exchange for the 3  Kuffrahs and all the (1890?) class TBs.

[ciders]

-Minesweepers
-Submarine chasers/patrol boats
-Refits to the Campeons, and possibly others
-New destroyers to supplement your few modern units

For auxiliaries:

-A couple of transports could be handy
-Possibly a couple of tenders, as noted
-A royal yacht might keep the king from constantly borrowing your warships
-A couple of older ships assigned to training duties

Personnaly ( yes I'm French and I love the Youth School ;) ), I think Egypt needs too some light units : cruisers ( 10000 t or less ), submarines or torpedoes boats ( in the Red Sea, a well-placed submarine, and we play to captain Weddingen versus the three old Cressy cruisers, off the Belgium ) and maybe, one or two battleships ( no flagships, what a heresy ).

But royal yacht and auxiliaires, I totally agree. Destroyers... it's really useful ? Egypt have yet 10 ex-CSA destroyers, plus the four 1905-class.

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I bought 4 ex-CSA BBs, and 21 TR-113 class DDs. I then sold 2 BBs to the Ottomans, and traded the other 2 and 6 TR-113s to Egypt in exchange for the 3  Kuffrahs and all the (1890?) class TBs.

And I sold three BB's to Gran Colombia, and 6 TR-113's to CSA.

[The Rock Doctor]

You (well, Talos) sold the old ex-Caliphate battleships to me.  I think you would probably have the ex-CSA ships still in your inventory.

[Guinness]

Sure hope so. The CSA would be none to keen for those BBs to end up in Colombian hands. It would probably have repercussions for future relations.

[ciders]

In fact, all the Egyptian battleships have strangely disapparead in a dark night. No ?  ::)

[Desertfox]

It's gotta be the 3 round BBs as the other three are in Zionite service. The 1890 TBs should be listed as sold not scrapped. You should have the 2 ex-CSA BBs I sold to Egypt. I don't think they went anywhere.

I find it very interesting that the CSA sold me the DDs, which I then sold to Egypt, which sold them BACK to the CSA! Maybe the CSA could just have kept them...

[Kaiser Kirk]

I find it very interesting that the CSA sold me the DDs, which I then sold to Egypt, which sold them BACK to the CSA! Maybe the CSA could just have kept them...

It depends. If purchase price <  (sale price + maintenance savings) Then the CSA came out ahead.

[Guinness]

Actually, in this case, the CSA came out ahead, as those ships were destined to a couple more years in reserve, then the scrapyard.

This way I got some $ for them, then got them back to scrap them.

Not that I'd designed it that way...