Logi's Never-Weres

[Logi]

?, ? Class Battleship laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   36,736 t light; 39,309 t standard; 42,000 t normal; 44,153 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   778.05 ft / 760.00 ft x 110.50 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   237.15 m / 231.65 m x 33.68 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      18 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (6 mounts), 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised guns
      16 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      32 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (3 mounts), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1913 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 31,010 lbs / 14,066 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   450.00 ft / 137.16 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   310.00 ft / 94.49 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   450.00 ft / 137.16 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      2.00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 57,057 shp / 42,564 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 6,544nm at 14.00 kts
        Range 1,940nm at 23.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,844 tons

Complement:
   1,466 - 1,906

Cost:
   £5.302 million / $21.209 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3,876 tons, 9.2 %
   Armour: 11,927 tons, 28.4 %
      - Belts: 5,704 tons, 13.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2,803 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,420 tons, 8.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 2,275 tons, 5.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,152 tons, 43.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,264 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 506 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     46,884 lbs / 21,266 Kg = 27.8 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 3.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 7.0 ft / 2.1 m
   Roll period: 17.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.94
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.604
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.88 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.57 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 35.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21.50 ft / 6.55 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (50 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Stern:      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.04 ft / 6.41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 61,628 Square feet or 5,725 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 224 lbs/sq ft or 1,092 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.17
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Something I made while bored. The gun arrangement is based on the IJN Fuso IRL. Comment, flame, kill the witch, give a banana.

[maddox]

If she was build irl, the country building her would have been bankrupt.

Unless it was the US or the UK, if they didn't build 2 other battleships.

But with a bit of calculating, you could have done an USS Agincourt with tripple 16" turrets (like the never build South Dakota class of 1917)

Of course, it wouldn't beat my MN Baugé of 1935 with 7 quad 15" turrets.

[Logi]

Yes, but I thought quad turrets was pushing it. I should have designed it to fire 16", but the recoil was just too much. I was trying not to lower the L:B ratio from 7:1 too much. I never noticed the price, now that I see it, it's almost 2.5x more than the latest CSA battleship.. But doesn't it cost less than a Iowa class Battleship (IRL)?

[Logi]

Hells Astche, ? Floating Fortress laid down 1913

Displacement:
   62,163 t light; 66,629 t standard; 66,629 t normal; 66,629 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   400.00 ft / 400.00 ft x 400.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   121.92 m / 121.92 m x 121.92 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      4 - 20.00" / 508 mm guns (1x4 guns), 4,000.00lbs / 1,814.37kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (8x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (8x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (4x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18,348 lbs / 8,323 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   18.0" / 457 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   50.00 ft / 15.24 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Immobile floating battery

Complement:
   2,072 - 2,695

Cost:
   £4.475 million / $17.901 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,294 tons, 3.4 %
   Armour: 27,942 tons, 41.9 %
      - Belts: 13,320 tons, 20.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2,152 tons, 3.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 12,470 tons, 18.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 31,927 tons, 47.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,466 tons, 6.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     423,592 lbs / 192,138 Kg = 105.9 x 20.0 " / 508 mm shells or 52.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.53
   Metacentric height 162.1 ft / 49.4 m
   Roll period: 13.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.583
   Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 0 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Mid (50 %):      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Stern:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Average freeboard:   30.00 ft / 9.14 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 30.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 309.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 112,338 Square feet or 10,437 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 290 lbs/sq ft or 1,416 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 7.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Here's another one. Not so serious, I was basing it on a boss from Warship Gunner 2. I just noticed all my ship's price tags makes your eyeballs pop out.