The Middle Kingdom - 1/1/13

[Desertfox]

The Queen was killed of? I thought it was Chancellor Palpatine the one that got killed.

[Tanthalas]

The Queen was killed of? I thought it was Chancellor Palpatine the one that got killed.

nope they killed off the Queen to... bah cant find the post now.

[The Rock Doctor]

A question for Foxy specifically:  are NS reports from the First Pacific War accurate in terms of numbers and types of MK ships sunk in various battles?  Or did you inflate the numbers for propaganda purposes?

[Desertfox]

I don't quite recall. Send me the reports and I'll be able to tell you.

[The Rock Doctor]

I don't have them - they'll be in the news archive, no doubt, but I've only looked at the Middle Kingdom posts so far.

[Desertfox]

Hmm... let me see if I have them. I do know that Constitution alone sank around 5+ MK Coastal Battleships.

[P3D]

IMO just give some tonnage for VU to play with.

[Desertfox]

Something else to consider, the MK got quite a few ex-Russian ships and from what Walter said about his (Japan) they would be mostly crewed by non-Chinese. So I would suggest giving most of the Chinese built ships to the MK, with the non-Chinese ships probably defecting to the other side.

[The Rock Doctor]

I've just split them up randomly.  No additional tonnage between 1909 and 1912 - all being consumed in making up troop and ammunition losses from either 2PW or the civil war.

Battleships

Wei Lei - Reformist
Hong Wei Lei - Monarchist
Xingzi - Monarchist
Mingxing - Monarchist

Coastal Battleships

Longzi - Reformist
Hualong - sunk 1PW
Tianlong - sunk 1PW
Guolong - sunk CW
Xinglong - Monarchist
Wanglong - beached and lost to volcano 1901
Jilong - sunk 1PW
Bialong - sunk 1901
Wulong - sunk CW
Hailong - Reformist
Hezhonglong - Monarchist
Cailong - sunk 2PW
Jilong - sunk 2 PW
Wenlong - Reformist
Yunlong - Reformist
Shengzi - sunk CW
Weisheng - Reformist
Wusheng - Monarchist

Armored Cruisers

Datong - Monarchist
Dahan - Reformist
Dawan  -sunk CW
Bang - Monarchist
Gun - Monarchist
Hao Fu Ren - Reformist
Yu Fu Ren - sunk CW
Jian Fu Ren - Reformist
Kui Fu Ren - Monarchist

Cruisers

Guoxion - sunk 1PW
Yongzi - Reformist

Destroyers

Zan - sunk 2PW
Zan Fu Chou - sunk 2PW
Zan Fei - sunk 2PW
Zan Xing - sunk CW
Zan Quan - sunk 2PW
Zan Zhang - sunk 2PW
Zan Xing Dong - Reformist
Zan Shi Ye - Reformist
Zan Zheng - sunk 2PW
Zan Da - Monarchist
Zan Qiang - Reformist
Zan Bao Nu - Reformist

Torpedo Boats

Yangzi 1 to 100 - 8 of them lost to volcano 1901; 33 lost in 1PW; 2 lost in 2PW, 22 lost in CW; 18 Monarchist, 17 Reformist
Fengyang - sunk CW
Chaoyang - Monarchist
Haiyang - Reformist
Huayang - Monarchist
Hanyang - sunk CW
Qingyang - sunk 1PW
Kunyang - Monarchist
Zhengyang - Reformist
Fuyang - Reformist
Jianyang - Reformist
Dewu 1 to 8 - 1 sunk CW; 3 Monarchist, 4 Reformist
Haishi (Sea Lion) 1901 - Monarchist
QH Hainiao (Sea Bird) 1901 - Monarchist
QH Haiying (Sea Hawk) 1901 - sunk CW
QH Haihu (Sea Tiger) 1901 - Reformist
QH Hai'ou (Sea Gull) 1901 - Monarchist
QH Hailong (Sea Dragon) 1901 - Reformist
QH Haipeng (Sea Roc) 1901 - sunk CW
QH Haiyan (Sea Swallow) 1901 - Monarchist
QH Haibao (Seal) 1901 - sunk CW
QH Haitun (Dolphin) 1901 - Reformist
QH Haifu (Sea Duck) 1901 - lost 2PW
QH Haihe (Sea Crane) 1901 - lost 2PW
QH Haixiang (Walrus) 1902 - Reformist
QH Haihu (Sea Swan) 1902 - Reformist
QH Haidan (Sea Urchin) 1902 - Monarchist
QH Haifeng (Sea Phoenix) 1902 - Reformist
QH Haique (Sea Sparrosw) 1902 - Reformist
QH Haihong (Sea Ray) 1902 - Monarchist
QH Haisha (Shark) 1902 - Reformist
QH Haigui (Sea Turtle) 1902 - Reformist
QH Kuaizi ("Fast Class") laid down Q4 1904 - Reformist
QH Kuaikai ("Fast Anger") laid down Q4 1904 - Reformist
QH Kuaiquan ("Fast Fist") laid down Q4 1904 - Reformist
QH Kuaijiao ("Fast Kick") laid down Q4 1904 - Monarchist
QH Kuaibaofu ("Fast Revenge") laid down Q4 1904 - Monarchist
QH Kuaige ("Fast Fight") laid down Q4 1904 - Monarchist
QH Kuaijiuzhu ("Fast Aid") laid down Q4 1904 - sunk 2PW
QH Kuaili ("Fast Power") laid down Q4 1904 - sunk 2PW
QH Kuaigun ("Fast Stick") laid down Q4 1904 - sunk 2PW
QH Kuairong ("Fast Glory") laid down Q4 1904 - sunk 2PW
+ 20 Kuaizi in 1/07 -3 lost CW - 8 Monarchist, 9 Reformist
+20 Kuaizi in 2/07 - 5 lost CW - 8 Monarchist, 7 Reformist

Submarines

Chang Haitun" (Happy Dolphin), laid down 1902 - sunk CW
"Wan Haitun" (Mischievous Dolphin), laid down 1902 - Monarchist
"Xiao Haitun" (Cheerful Dolphin), laid down 1902 - sunk CW
"Wan Er Haitun" (Smiling Dolphin), laid down 1902 - Reformist
"Chang Haitun" (Joyful Dolphin), laid down 1902 - lost, accident
"Huan Haitun" (Joyous Dolphin), laid down 1902 - Reformist
"Qing Haitun" (Reckless Dolphin), laid down 1902 - lost, accident
"Xing Haitun" (Lucky Dolphin), laid down 1904 - Reformist
"Tiao Haitun" (Jumping Dolphin), laid down 1904 - sunk 2PW
"Chan Haitun" (Graceful Dolphin), laid down 1904 - Reformist
"Luo Haitun" (Smart Dolphin), laid down 1904 - Monarchist

Minelayers

QH Wu (Martial), - Monarchist
QH Wu Quan (Martial Fist), - Monarchist
QH Wu Chuai (Martial Kick), - Monarchist
QH Wu Qiang (Martial Strength), sunk CW
QH Wu Li (Martial Power), - Reformist
QH Wu Cai (Martial Endowment) - sunk CW

Minesweepers

T1 - 23 - eleven sunk, twelve left. - six Monarchist, six Reformist

River Monitors

QH Jiangzi (River Class) 1889 - Reformist
QH Jiangyuan (Primacy of the River) 1889 - Monarchist
QH Jiangzhen (Preciousness of the River) 1889 - sunk CW
QH Jiangkun (Great Fish of the River) 1889 - sunk CW
QH Jiangli (Profit of the River) 1890 - Monarchist
QH Jiangping (Tranquility of the River) 1890 - Reformist
QH Jiang'an (Peace of the River) 1890 - Reformist
QH Jiangtong (Connection of the River) 1890 - sunk 1901
QH Jianggong (Consolidation of the River) 1891 - Monarchist
QH Jianggu (Stability of the River) 1891 - sunk CW
QH Zhujiang (Pearl River) 1891 - Reformist
QH Heilongjiang (Black Dragon River) 1891 -sunk CW
QH Jinshajiang (Golden Sand River) 1892 - Monarchist
QH Jiangcai (Fortune of the River) 1892 - Reformist
QH Jiangbaozhen (Treasure of the River) 1892 - Reformist
QH Juanjiang (Graceful River) 1892 - Reformist
QH Jiangli (Strength of the River) 1893 - Monarchist
QH Jianglifang (Sweet Smell of the River) 1893 - sunk CW
QH Jiangqiangwei (Rose of the River) 1893 - sunk CW
QH Jiangxing (Prosperity of the River) 1893 - Reformist
QH Renzi ("Tenacious") laid down Q3 1904 - sunk CW
QH Ren-Dou-Zhi ("Tenacious Will to Fight") laid down Q3 1904 - Monarchist
QH Ren-Ben-Zhi ("Tenacious Character") laid down Q4 1904 - Reformist
QH Renshi ('Tenacious Warrior") laid down Q4 1904 - sunk CW

Harbour Defence

QH Baozhen, 1 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 2 laid down 1903 - sunk CW
QH Baozhen, 3 laid down 1903 - Reformist
QH Baozhen, 4 laid down 1903-sunk CW
QH Baozhen, 5 laid down 1903 - Reformist
QH Baozhen, 6 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 7 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 8 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 9 laid down 1903 - sunk CW
QH Baozhen, 10 laid down 1903 - Reformist
QH Baozhen, 11 laid down 1903 - Reformist
QH Baozhen, 12 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 13 laid down 1903 - sunk CW
QH Baozhen, 14 laid down 1903 - Monarchist
QH Baozhen, 15 laid down 1903 - Reformist

Colliers

QH Yingzi (Bravery Class) 1900 - Monarchist
QH Yinghao (Brave heroism) (1901) - Reformist