CSA Speculative Design Studies

Started by Guinness, August 31, 2008, 08:07:13 PM

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Guinness

Maybe this ship or something like it would work better as a sloop with a lot less speed, but built to 1.0 overall strength. Such a ship probably could be built to merchant standards.

The CSN has been getting more than it's money's worth out of the two LR wireless equipped S-21's. A few more such ships may be of great utility for keeping an eye on the Colombian major units as they scatter to the four corners of the earth during whatever the next world crisis is.

TexanCowboy

But I need something that could be built without a drydock. It was based on the Hainan ED's. Just a concept, though.

Guinness

You've got 65 slips and dry docks. 22 of them are type 0...

Logi

Guinness's got a point there. You have an overabundance of small docks. Add that with the new rules for putting multiple small ships in a dock and I don't think you need this design ;)

TexanCowboy


TexanCowboy

Another evil design from the same company that brought you the "Haiti". ;D

This would be a specially designed Arctic and Antarctic exploration ship. It's eventually purpose is to do something evil.  ;D. It's so evil, it's named the Ike  ;D ;D. But seriously, can I build this to civilian standard. I believe that all of the "armour" on this ship is nessasary to protect againist crushing ice, falling ice, or to push ice out of the way.

QuoteCSS Ike, CSA Antarctic Exploration laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,201 t standard; 9,890 t normal; 11,241 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.75 ft / 551.00 ft x 56.25 ft x 17.87 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 167.94 m x 17.14 m  x 5.45 m

Armament:
      2 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 21.44lbs / 9.72kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 - 0.00" / 0.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.00lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Machine gun in deck mount
     on side, all aft
   Weight of broadside 43 lbs / 19 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   -Iceburg Ram   Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
      2.00" / 51 mm     50.00 ft / 15.24 m   25.00 ft / 7.62 m
    

   - Anti-Iceburg Bulkhead:
      1.00" / 25 mm   550.00 ft / 167.64 m   21.00 ft / 6.40 m

   - Protective Deck deck: 0.57" / 14.5 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18,107 shp / 13,508 Kw = 21.12 kts
   Range 20,000nm at 11.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,039 tons (10% coal)

Complement:
   495 - 644

Cost:
   £0.829 million / $3.315 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 765 tons, 7.7 %
      - Belts: 93 tons, 0.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 427 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 245 tons, 2.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 681 tons, 6.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,999 tons, 30.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,890 tons, 19.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3,550 tons, 35.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20,646 lbs / 9,365 Kg = 963.1 x 3.5 " / 89 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0.625
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.47 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 11.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.89 ft / 0.58 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   24.00 ft / 7.32 m (23.00 ft / 7.01 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m (21.00 ft / 6.40 m before break)
      - Stern:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.29 ft / 6.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 196.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,201 Square feet or 2,155 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 173 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 371 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight:
250 tons: 10 Large Moter Launches@25 tons
1,000 tons: Science Facilities and space for Scientices, includes supplies and huts, etc. for a full year on Antarctica for 20 people.
600 tons: Area's for dog's and dog trainers. Each dog pack of 6 dogs@10 tons+40 trainers@5 tons, so 40 dog teams and 240 dogs
300 tons: TAMED POLAR BEARS! 12 bears@20 tons+12 trainers@5 tons
200 tons: A very long range(1,000+ miles)@100 tons, 3 backup long ranges@25 tons, and 2 short ranges at@12.5 tons
25 tons: Experimental "Ears" for hearing whales underwater
75 tons: Climitization
50 tons: Extra pumps for repelling ice water caused by breaks in the hull
50 tons: Signal rockets, etc.
1,000 tons: Space for cargo, etc.

hooper82

"300 tons: TAMED POLAR BEARS! 12 bears@20 tons+12 trainers@5 tons"

Er...Really?

Polar Bears are from the Arctic, not the Antarctic too.
<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"

Borys

#157
Ahoj!
Hmm, I think I should publish my claim to the Antarctic Peninsula. I've already claimed the sorounding islands ...
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

maddox

An explorer vessel doesn't have to be military. Just a civilian icebreaker will do. 

But I -maddox the moderator- won't stop you if you want to waste 8 BP.




The Rock Doctor

If there's a secret, projected military use for this vessel, it should be built to military standards.  You're not exactly hurting for BP.

I'll echo the point on polar bears.

Walter

In my eyes, a vessel such as this that is expected to encoutner and deal with ice should be properly built thus it should be build as a regular military ship just like I did with the Kainan Maru.
QuotePolar Bears are from the Arctic, not the Antarctic too.
Everybody knows that, but I suspect that to be part of TexanCowboy's evil plan. :D

The Rock Doctor

"OMGZ!!1!  Teh Confederates has arrived at Havana and are unloading teh polar bear cavalry!!1!"

Sachmle

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on November 24, 2009, 07:35:13 AM
"OMGZ!!1!  Teh Confederates has arrived at Havana and are unloading teh polar bear cavalry!!1!"
You realize you've left me no choice but to post this, right?

"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Walter

Actually, I believe the plan to be to take the polar bears from the Arctic to Antarctica in order to conquer the penguins and use the penguins to take over Gran Columbia. :)

Sachmle

But his Bear Cavalry can't stop our Neue Schwabian Penguin Army.

"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim