the Oficial NS new ship ideas thread

[Tanthalas]

think 6X14" would be enough? I can get them on it (just have to mess around with a few things) to go up to 8 though basicly I have to give up a knot.

Depends, think it is enough to gain the upper hand vs. Scharnhorst (8 vs. 6 30cm guns is not enough for that IMO). No matter what you will be outgunned vs. the latest Dutch ships, so then 8 x 356mm guns would most likely be better. But not if they cost you the speed you need vs. the DKB ships, as they are the greater threat.  

I think the 14" version would destroy this DKB ship, its armor couldnt hold up to 14" fire (its questionable if it would hold up to 12" fire) http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2548.msg27215#msg27215  I assume thats the DKD BC you were refering to

[Korpen]

think 6X14" would be enough? I can get them on it (just have to mess around with a few things) to go up to 8 though basicly I have to give up a knot.

Depends, think it is enough to gain the upper hand vs. Scharnhorst (8 vs. 6 30cm guns is not enough for that IMO). No matter what you will be outgunned vs. the latest Dutch ships, so then 8 x 356mm guns would most likely be better. But not if they cost you the speed you need vs. the DKB ships, as they are the greater threat.  

I think the 14" version would destroy this DKB ship, its armor couldnt hold up to 14" fire (its questionable if it would hold up to 12" fire) http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2548.msg27215#msg27215  I assume thats the DKD BC you were refering to

No: http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=1218.msg10757#msg10757
I suspect new engines would give her a speed in the 26,5kts range.

[Tanthalas]

think 6X14" would be enough? I can get them on it (just have to mess around with a few things) to go up to 8 though basicly I have to give up a knot.

Depends, think it is enough to gain the upper hand vs. Scharnhorst (8 vs. 6 30cm guns is not enough for that IMO). No matter what you will be outgunned vs. the latest Dutch ships, so then 8 x 356mm guns would most likely be better. But not if they cost you the speed you need vs. the DKB ships, as they are the greater threat.  

I think the 14" version would destroy this DKB ship, its armor couldnt hold up to 14" fire (its questionable if it would hold up to 12" fire) http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2548.msg27215#msg27215  I assume thats the DKD BC you were refering to

No: http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=1218.msg10757#msg10757
I suspect new engines would give her a speed in the 26,5kts range.

your proly about right, I hadnt looked for ships swampy built ^.^ I was looking for other new builds.

[ledeper]

Small in kick:
Battlecruiser study, BCS BC laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   18.380 t light; 19.355 t standard; 21.216 t normal; 22.704 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,62 ft / 716,86 ft x 75,46 ft x 26,25 ft (normal load)
   219,65 m / 218,50 m x 23,00 m  x 8,00 m

Armament:
      6 - 13,78" / 350 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1.308,20lbs / 593,39kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 4,92" / 125 mm guns (8x2 guns), 59,59lbs / 27,03kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8.810 lbs / 3.996 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,84" / 250 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   10,43 ft / 3,18 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   537,66 ft / 163,88 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 79.896 shp / 59.602 Kw = 28,45 kts
   Range 7.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.349 tons

Complement:
   878 - 1.142

Cost:
   £2,564 million / $10,255 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.101 tons, 5,2 %
   Armour: 5.244 tons, 24,7 %
      - Belts: 2.956 tons, 13,9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 850 tons, 4,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1.341 tons, 6,3 %
      - Conning Tower: 98 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 3.186 tons, 15,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8.500 tons, 40,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.835 tons, 13,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1,6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     24.405 lbs / 11.070 Kg = 18,7 x 13,8 " / 350 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 15,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,81
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,28

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,523
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   18,73 ft / 5,71 m
      - Mid (70 %):      18,73 ft / 5,71 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   18,73 ft / 5,71 m
      - Stern:      18,73 ft / 5,71 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,84 ft / 5,74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 36.812 Square feet or 3.420 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 153 lbs/sq ft or 749 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,17
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[P3D]

The problem with the Swiss continuing their speed freak policy of being faster than the rest is not working. Mainly due to the DKB going the WWII way instead of the WWI one - making as fast ships as possible starting with S&G. This means that the NSN do not have the same freedom in deciding whether to engage or not.
So, IMO, the NSN could just select a different course with the change of power, and a different shipbuilding philosophy.

[Tanthalas]

The problem with the Swiss continuing their speed freak policy of being faster than the rest is not working. Mainly due to the DKB going the WWII way instead of the WWI one - making as fast ships as possible starting with S&G. This means that the NSN do not have the same freedom in deciding whether to engage or not.
So, IMO, the NSN could just select a different course with the change of power, and a different shipbuilding philosophy.

You are absolutly Corect, idk i would think I still need to be able to run with them though (otherwise the pesky retches just run away and live to raid another day)

[Desertfox]

I like the 14" design. It could use a few 6 inchers, and putting all your eggs in two baskets might not be a good idea, but she is definately Swiss.

Very fast, good armor (the Constitutions had decent armor for their period), and good guns. They are a match for anything in the Pacific with the exception of the newest Dutch BCs, and unlike other BCs, they actually stand a chance of defeating the Dutch ships.

[Tanthalas]

I like the 14" design. It could use a few 6 inchers, and putting all your eggs in two baskets might not be a good idea, but she is definately Swiss.

Very fast, good armor (the Constitutions had decent armor for their period), and good guns. They are a match for anything in the Pacific with the exception of the newest Dutch BCs, and unlike other BCs, they actually stand a chance of defeating the Dutch ships.

I rather like them to honestly, i may try a drawing on it today (when I have time).  They outmach the curent DKB ships (built and proposed), and vs the dutch while outguned (admitedly), it would likley come down to luck, and crew skill.

[Tanthalas]

my atempt to sim a G8 LOL (mostly a study in how to sim one opinions)

G8-12, New Switzerland Battle Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   24,135 t light; 25,208 t standard; 28,285 t normal; 30,747 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720.00 ft / 707.00 ft x 88.40 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   219.46 m / 215.49 m x 26.94 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      5 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2 mounts), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      3 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (1x3 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline amidships
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      10 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8,641 lbs / 3,919 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   425.00 ft / 129.54 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   282.00 ft / 85.95 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   425.00 ft / 129.54 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   425.00 ft / 129.54 m   25.52 ft / 7.78 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   12.0" / 305 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 80,000 shp / 59,680 Kw = 27.03 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,538 tons

Complement:
   1,089 - 1,417

Cost:
   £2.398 million / $9.594 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,080 tons, 3.8 %
   Armour: 9,824 tons, 34.7 %
      - Belts: 4,990 tons, 17.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 602 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 1,661 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,372 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 200 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,190 tons, 11.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,691 tons, 34.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,151 tons, 14.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     37,174 lbs / 16,862 Kg = 43.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 6.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.528
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.59 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forecastle (40 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Quarterdeck (0 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.40 ft / 5.61 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 42,730 Square feet or 3,970 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 158 lbs/sq ft or 769 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.15
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250 tons FC
25 tons Wireless
25 tons Flag Facilities
50 tons Reserved

[Tanthalas]

Final on the BCs I plan to build next (and no they arnt geting 6" guns, id use 5" if I had one)

USNSS Inflexible (final), USNS Battlecruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   23,800 t light; 24,857 t standard; 27,756 t normal; 30,075 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   719.00 ft / 700.00 ft x 92.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   219.15 m / 213.36 m x 28.04 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      6 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      20 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (10x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns in single mounts, 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8,874 lbs / 4,025 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   280.00 ft / 85.34 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   26.10 ft / 7.96 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      11.0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 78,716 shp / 58,722 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,218 tons

Complement:
   1,074 - 1,397

Cost:
   £2.405 million / $9.618 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,109 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 8,846 tons, 31.9 %
      - Belts: 5,173 tons, 18.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 608 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armament: 1,212 tons, 4.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,655 tons, 6.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 198 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,139 tons, 11.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,356 tons, 37.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,956 tons, 14.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     41,085 lbs / 18,636 Kg = 29.9 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 6.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0.503
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.61 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30.87 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (70 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m (13.00 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Stern:      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.78 ft / 6.03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 44,739 Square feet or 4,156 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 165 lbs/sq ft or 806 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.34
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc. Weight: 350 tons
250 tons FC
  25 tons Wireless
  25 tons Flag Facilities
  25 tons Crew Comfort
  25 tons Reserved

[P3D]

Nobbad.

However, with the deck mounted secondaries I'd reduce the upper belt extent and/or thickness.

[Ithekro]

Well they can probably take on Rohan's Battle Cruisers, as this would have a four knot speed advantage, thicker armor, size, and larger main guns.

Oddly, both of Rohan's Battle Cruiser designs throw more weight of shell than this design.  So it is possile that the Rohirrim ships could beat the larger Swiss vessels through getting more hits more often verses the heavier, but fewer, hits from the Swiss vessels.

Now against Rohan's Battleships?  I suppose the Battlecruisers would simply run away (with a 7 knot speed advantage) rather than be torn apart by more than twice their weight in shells while going up against 13-14 inches of armor.

[The Rock Doctor]

Why go to twin deck mounts?

[Tanthalas]

The truth, shrug cause I can LOL, the given reason will be somthing like useability against multiple targets, trainability, field of fire, somthing like that anyway.

[Tanthalas]

1915 proposed fast Battleship

USNSS Lion, USNS Battlecruiser laid down 1915 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   28,800 t light; 30,173 t standard; 33,069 t normal; 35,386 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   750.00 ft / 731.00 ft x 101.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   228.60 m / 222.81 m x 30.78 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      8 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      20 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (10x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread
     2 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm guns (2x2 guns), 4.00lbs / 1.81kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns in single mounts, 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1915 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 12,492 lbs / 5,666 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   438.60 ft / 133.69 m   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   438.60 ft / 133.69 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   438.60 ft / 133.69 m   27.54 ft / 8.39 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      11.0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 87,661 shp / 65,395 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,213 tons

Complement:
   1,225 - 1,593

Cost:
   £4.039 million / $16.157 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,562 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 10,765 tons, 32.6 %
      - Belts: 5,747 tons, 17.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 670 tons, 2.0 %
      - Armament: 2,267 tons, 6.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,858 tons, 5.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 222 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,266 tons, 9.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,858 tons, 38.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,269 tons, 12.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     48,289 lbs / 21,904 Kg = 35.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 7.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 17.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.523
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.04 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (70 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (14.00 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.86 ft / 6.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 50,223 Square feet or 4,666 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 184 lbs/sq ft or 898 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250 tons FC
  25 tons Marconi
  25 tons Flag Facilities
  50 tons Radar

Armour inclined 10 degrees

one more to come