Netherlands subsidised liner

Started by Korpen, August 29, 2008, 09:19:28 AM

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Korpen

Got inspired by the GC ship, so here is a liner for the rather un-economic route Rotterdam-Angusstad-Batavia.
The range might be a bit excessive but it will allow for a high speed trip between Angusstad and Batavia, a neat run of 7000nm.


Tun Fatimah, Netherlands Subsidised liner laid down 1912
Drawing will follow...


Displacement:
   20 000 t light; 20 637 t standard; 30 412 t normal; 38 232 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721,78 ft / 721,78 ft x 91,86 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   220,00 m / 220,00 m x 28,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99,21lbs / 45,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 317 lbs / 144 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 67 068 shp / 50 033 Kw = 25,50 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 25,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 17 594 tons

Complement:
   1 150 - 1 496

Cost:
   £1,109 million / $4,436 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 41 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 2 674 tons, 8,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 884 tons, 25,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 10 412 tons, 34,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 9 400 tons, 30,9 %
   - 1000 cabin passengers (6t) 6000ton
   - Cargo 3000 ton
   - Radio 25 ton
   - Anti-collision device (Radar) 25 ton
   - 150 ton Refridgerated cargo 300 ton
   - reserve 50 ton
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     49 827 lbs / 22 601 Kg = 483,9 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 4,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m
   Roll period: 16,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,87

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,544
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,86 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,87 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,56 ft / 9,01 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Stern:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,49 ft / 7,16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 64,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 175,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 001 Square feet or 4 274 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 202 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 567 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,19
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

The Rock Doctor

The freeboard seems low-ish for a liner, but she looks good otherwise.  The all-cabin arrangement's probably a good choice for a route that long.

Look forward to seeing the picture...

ledeper

Big,Big, Moderate speed Long endurance

Baltic Liner, BCS Liner laid down 1914

Displacement:
   31.463 t light; 32.293 t standard; 41.500 t normal; 48.866 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,43 ft / 715,22 ft x 114,83 ft x 25,43 ft (normal load)
   219,59 m / 218,00 m x 35,00 m  x 7,75 m

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 59.405 shp / 44.316 Kw = 22,85 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 20,00 kts

        Range 25.000nm at 12,00 kts


   Bunker at max displacement = 16.573 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.453 - 1.889

Cost:
   £1,850 million / $7,400 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 2.517 tons, 6,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10.946 tons, 26,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 10.037 tons, 24,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 43,4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     71.822 lbs / 32.578 Kg = 665,0 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
   Roll period: 17,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,86

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,696
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Stern:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   26,51 ft / 8,08 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 225,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 65.567 Square feet or 6.091 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 180 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 625 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,18
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

  300 /1.Class passengers....................300x10 t.= 3000 t.
1000/2.Class passengers...................1000x08 t.= 8000 t.
1500/Steerage passengers.................1500x03 t.= 4500 t.
Total passengers .................................2800 passengers.
Cargo ...................................................1000 t.
Extra Wireless and more seaboats......1000 t.
Refrigiated Store:Equipment 150 t. Store 350 t.


maddox

Le Magnificent is now 10 years, and her replacement is designed.
Unfortunatly, pricetag of Le Magnificent and the current government aren't of the same idea, so all military specs she had are ommited, except the 2 hoists that are convertable to moint and hoist gun emplacements.

Oil firing to get rid of the black smoke that plagues Le Magnificent on high speed.

A longer, more slender hull gives a higher speed compared to power.
This eleminates  the vibrations that make Le Magnificent less suitable for longer ranged high speed runs.





QuoteNormandy, France Liner laid down 1914 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   35.315 t light; 36.218 t standard; 43.256 t normal; 48.886 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   886,31 ft / 879,27 ft x 91,86 ft x 32,32 ft (normal load)
   270,15 m / 268,00 m x 28,00 m  x 9,85 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,98kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      2 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 294 lbs / 133 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 145.102 shp / 108.246 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 9.300nm at 20,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 12.669 tons

Complement:
   1.499 - 1.949

Cost:
   £2,576 million / $10,303 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 37 tons, 0,1%
   Machinery: 5.406 tons, 12,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.872 tons, 27,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7.941 tons, 18,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 41,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     49.412 lbs / 22.413 Kg = 590,2 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 5,3 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 16,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 41 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,24

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,580
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 27
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,97 ft / 0,60 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      36,09 ft / 11,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Stern:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   24,46 ft / 7,46 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172,0%
   Waterplane Area: 57.980 Square feet or 5.386 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 662 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,09
      - Longitudinal: 0,97
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

18000tons of misc weight is:

17t / 1st class cabin passenger .........    400 passengers = 6800tons
4.25t / 2nd class cabin passenger.........1000 passengers = 4250tons
1.78t / Steerage passenger......................2500 passengers = 4450tons
Total passengers.......................................3900 passengers = 14900tons
Cargo = 1500tons
Extras inc wireless & more seaboats = 1000tons

or

17000tons = 8500soldiers
600tons = misc cargo
400tons = more seaboats and Wireless



The Rock Doctor

Now I want to see what the New Zionite steamship looks like.  I'm thinking, "four circular swimming pools, two forward and two aft, with the inner ones raised up a deck level to...umm...be exclusive to the first class passengers.  And really thick plating in case of icebergs."

Ledeper - quite an impressive beast, but the engine year needs to be 1912 or 1916.  P3D's comments about coal versus oil probably apply to you and to Maddox.

Maddox - not enough freeboard; it ought to be 1/3 to 1/2 of beam.  The low steadiness may cause sea-sickness, too...

Korpen

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on August 29, 2008, 09:32:18 AM
Look forward to seeing the picture...
Working on it, I have just found out that it is quite hard to draw liners...
Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

The Rock Doctor

Indeed.  Different design considerations entirely.

maddox

This better then?

The oil firing has a comfort reason, and that may cost a bit.  Less smoke/soot/ashes, passengers on the deck don't like soot on the clothes.
And the trade off: the black gang or oil.
What's cheapest? a few 100 guys shoveling coal or a few pumps and more expensive fuel?

QuoteNormandy, France Liner laid down 1914 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   35.673 t light; 36.606 t standard; 43.842 t normal; 49.630 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   886,31 ft / 879,27 ft x 91,86 ft x 28,87 ft (normal load)
   270,15 m / 268,00 m x 28,00 m  x 8,80 m

Armament:
     4 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     12 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     2 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 461 lbs / 209 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 151.043 shp / 112.678 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 9.300nm at 20,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 13.024 tons

Complement:
   1.514 - 1.969

Cost:
   £2,653 million / $10,614 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 58 tons, 0,1%
   Machinery: 5.628 tons, 12,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.988 tons, 27,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 8.169 tons, 18,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 41,1%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     56.961 lbs / 25.837 Kg = 680,3 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 5,1 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 17,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,77

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,658
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,97 ft / 0,60 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      36,09 ft / 11,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Stern:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   30,05 ft / 9,16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,8%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 231,6%
   Waterplane Area: 62.331 Square feet or 5.791 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 127 lbs/sq ft or 620 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,00
      - Longitudinal: 1,04
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

18000tons of misc weight is:

17t / 1st class cabin passenger .........    400 passengers = 6800tons
4.25t / 2nd class cabin passenger.........1000 passengers = 4250tons
1.78t / Steerage passenger......................2500 passengers = 4450tons
Total passengers.......................................3900 passengers = 14900tons
Cargo = 1500tons
Extras inc wireless & more seaboats = 1000tons

or

17000tons = 8500soldiers
600tons = misc cargo
400tons = more seaboats and Wireless



Tanthalas

I tend to agree with M on the fuel issue (although a few hundred easily replaced people vs still semi rare oil well idk id go oil just for reliability reasons (you can make full spd as long as you dont break somthing no people to get tierd)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

ledeper

Baltic Liner, BCS Liner laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   30.865 t light; 31.633 t standard; 38.400 t normal; 43.813 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720,43 ft / 715,22 ft x 114,83 ft x 25,43 ft (normal load)
   219,59 m / 218,00 m x 35,00 m  x 7,75 m

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 59.288 shp / 44.229 Kw = 23,25 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 20,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 12.180 tons

Complement:
   1.371 - 1.783

Cost:
   £1,796 million / $7,184 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 2.364 tons, 6,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10.501 tons, 27,3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7.535 tons, 19,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 46,9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     62.714 lbs / 28.446 Kg = 580,7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 5,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 7,5 ft / 2,3 m
   Roll period: 17,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,85

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,644
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Stern:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   26,51 ft / 8,08 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 228,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 62.547 Square feet or 5.811 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 169 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 623 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,23
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

  300 /1.Class passengers....................300x10 t.= 3000 t.
1000/2.Class passengers...................1000x08 t.= 8000 t.
1500/Steerage passengers.................1500x03 t.= 4500 t.
Total passengers .................................2800 passengers.
Cargo ...................................................1000 t.
Extra Wireless and more seaboats......1000 t.
Refrigiated Store:Equipment 150 t. Store 350 t.

25.000 nm at 12 knots:

Borys

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on August 29, 2008, 10:46:07 AM
Now I want to see what the New Zionite steamship looks like.  I'm thinking, "four circular swimming pools, two forward and two aft, with the inner ones raised up a deck level to...umm...be exclusive to the first class passengers.  And really thick plating in case of icebergs."
I had to reread to get the joke.
A real gem!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Korpen

Tun Fatimah, Netherlands Subsidised liner laid down 1912

Displacement:
   20 000 t light; 20 642 t standard; 30 611 t normal; 38 586 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   705,38 ft / 705,38 ft x 88,58 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   215,00 m / 215,00 m x 27,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
     2 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99,21lbs / 45,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     6 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 317 lbs / 144 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 70 000 shp / 52 220 Kw = 25,65 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 25,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 17 945 tons

Complement:
   1 156 - 1 504

Cost:
   £1,125 million / $4,502 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 41 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 2 791 tons, 9,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 718 tons, 25,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 10 611 tons, 34,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 9 450 tons, 30,9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     51 359 lbs / 23 296 Kg = 498,7 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 4,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20
   Metacentric height 5,8 ft / 1,8 m
   Roll period: 15,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,89

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,581
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 37
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,56 ft / 9,01 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (40 %):      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Stern:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   24,39 ft / 7,43 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 65,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 44 881 Square feet or 4 170 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 199 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 559 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,25
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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P3D

Some googling let me know that several liners were converted to oil firing after WWI. However, liners are large that having enough stokers should not be a problem to maintain cruising speed, and one might also expect some semi-automatization here.

For an everyday liner of 20-22kts, coal would be the best choice (and most liners are 15-22kts or even slower). A liner with 27kts cruising speed should go for oil firing, but such liners would be much more expensive to operate.
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The bow and stern angles don't match the drawing.

To be honest - I think she'd look better with wider funnels - say 50% wider.

Korpen

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on August 29, 2008, 06:34:12 PM
The bow and stern angles don't match the drawing.
It does, as is now visible when i included underwater portion as well.
Granted that my choice of bulbuls bows is an effect of the length restrictions on dry docks, I like clipper bows, but as using them would impose a artificial restriction on the DD they can use. So by using bulbuls bows I can get the above water clipper bow look I want, while at the same time utilise the full waterline length. :

QuoteTo be honest - I think she'd look better with wider funnels - say 50% wider.
True, she do look better that way. :)
But still not pleased with her, drawing feedback is is desperatly wanted.

Lower and wider funnels:
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