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March 18, 2007, 06:37:42 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2007, 07:54:51 AM by miketr
PC-1885, Portugal Protected Cruiser laid down 1885

Displacement:
   2,842 t light; 2,958 t standard; 3,385 t normal; 3,726 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   300.00 ft / 300.00 ft x 45.00 ft x 19.50 ft (normal load)
   91.44 m / 91.44 m x 13.72 m  x 5.94 m

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 99.90lbs / 45.31kg shells, 1885 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.70" / 119 mm guns in single mounts, 48.02lbs / 21.78kg shells, 1885 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 2.93lbs / 1.33kg shells, 1885 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 505 lbs / 229 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,857 ihp / 5,115 Kw = 18.50 kts
   Range 4,300nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 768 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   221 - 288

Cost:
   £0.336 million / $1.343 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 63 tons, 1.9 %
   Armour: 408 tons, 12.1 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 51 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 319 tons, 9.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 39 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 1,309 tons, 38.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,062 tons, 31.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 542 tons, 16.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,700 lbs / 771 Kg = 17.0 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.58
   Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 92 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.12
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.85

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.450
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.40 ft / 5.61 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Mid (50 %):      12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Stern:      12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.62 ft / 3.85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 147.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,611 Square feet or 800 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 361 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.60
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

**********************************************
Laid Down 1885
Launched 1887
Finished 1888
0.75 BP per year build rate
Units in Class:1
Name: Lisbon


miketr

#1
March 18, 2007, 06:56:58 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2007, 08:42:59 AM by miketr
TB-1889, Portugal Torpedo Boat laid down 1889

Displacement:
   497 t light; 508 t standard; 559 t normal; 599 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   220.00 ft / 220.00 ft x 22.00 ft x 10.10 ft (normal load)
   67.06 m / 67.06 m x 6.71 m  x 3.08 m

Armament:
      2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.12lbs / 1.42kg shells, 1889 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7,719 ihp / 5,758 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 1,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 91 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   56 - 74

Cost:
   £0.066 million / $0.262 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.3 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 339 tons, 60.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 155 tons, 27.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 62 tons, 11.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     132 lbs / 60 Kg = 42.4 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.54
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 8.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.94 ft / 4.86 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Stern:      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.60 ft / 3.23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,979 Square feet or 277 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 19 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 110 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.80
      - Overall: 0.59
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

******************************************
One and Half Laid down Per Year between 1889-1892
Units Built:6
Names:TB1-TB6
0.5 BP per year towards each

Edit:Fixed for Hull Strength

miketr

#2
March 18, 2007, 09:02:00 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2007, 08:08:01 AM by miketr
PC-2, Portugal Protected Cruiser laid down 1893

Displacement:
   2,134 t light; 2,236 t standard; 2,499 t normal; 2,710 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   270.00 ft / 270.00 ft x 40.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
   82.30 m / 82.30 m x 12.19 m  x 5.49 m

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1893 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.70" / 119 mm guns in single mounts, 51.91lbs / 23.55kg shells, 1893 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1893 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 546 lbs / 248 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,244 ihp / 4,658 Kw = 19.00 kts
   Range 3,900nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 474 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   176 - 229

Cost:
   £0.270 million / $1.081 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 68 tons, 2.7 %
   Armour: 337 tons, 13.5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 51 tons, 2.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 255 tons, 10.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 32 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 988 tons, 39.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 741 tons, 29.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 366 tons, 14.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,152 lbs / 523 Kg = 10.7 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.54
   Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.450
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.07 ft / 5.51 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Mid (50 %):      11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Stern:      11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.03 ft / 3.67 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 159.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 85.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 6,889 Square feet or 640 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 306 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 2.90
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


**********************************************
Laid Down 1893
Launched 1894
Finished 1895
0.75 BP per year build rate
Units in Class:1
Name: Porto

Borys

#3
March 18, 2007, 11:32:54 PM Last Edit: March 18, 2007, 11:40:37 PM by Borys
Filipinas "Projekt C", Spanish Coast Defense Battleship laid down 1904

Displacement:
10,992 t light; 11,603 t standard; 12,632 t normal; 13,455 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
437.99 ft / 434.71 ft x 78.74 ft x 20.83 ft (normal load)
133.50 m / 132.50 m x 24.00 m x 6.35 m

Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 859.80lbs / 390.00kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 859.80lbs / 390.00kg shells, 1903 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side ends, evenly spread
20 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.27lbs / 16.00kg shells, 1897 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
20 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in any sea
4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1903 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1902 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts

Weight of broadside 7,599 lbs / 3,447 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 80

2 - 17.7" / 450 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 292.82 ft / 89.25 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 141.90 ft / 43.25 m 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
Upper: 3.15" / 80 mm 262.47 ft / 80.00 m 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.27" / 210 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
2nd: 8.27" / 210 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
3rd: 3.15" / 80 mm - -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 7.09" / 180 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12,000 ihp / 8,952 Kw = 17.68 kts
Range 6,750nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,852 tons)

Complement:
595 - 774

Cost:
?1.435 million / $5.739 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 956 tons, 7.6 %
Armour: 3,595 tons, 28.5 %
- Belts: 1,625 tons, 12.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 959 tons, 7.6 %
- Armour Deck: 929 tons, 7.4 %
- Conning Tower: 83 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 1,765 tons, 14.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,651 tons, 36.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,640 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 0.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,073 lbs / 4,569 Kg = 11.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.52 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.85 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
- Mid (50 %): 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
- Stern: 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
- Average freeboard: 10.22 ft / 3.12 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 83.4 %
Waterplane Area: 25,506 Square feet or 2,370 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 716 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.22
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

miketr

#4
March 19, 2007, 08:14:02 AM Last Edit: March 19, 2007, 08:45:35 AM by miketr
TB-1889, Portugal Torpedo Boat laid down 1896

Displacement:
   492 t light; 504 t standard; 559 t normal; 602 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   220.00 ft / 220.00 ft x 22.00 ft x 10.10 ft (normal load)
   67.06 m / 67.06 m x 6.71 m  x 3.08 m

Armament:
      3 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1896 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward
   Weight of broadside 10 lbs / 4 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,020 ihp / 6,729 Kw = 26.00 kts
   Range 2,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 98 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   56 - 74

Cost:
   £0.066 million / $0.264 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 341 tons, 61.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 148 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 66 tons, 11.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     134 lbs / 61 Kg = 42.3 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.54
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 8.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.34

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.94 ft / 4.86 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Stern:      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.60 ft / 3.23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 198.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,979 Square feet or 277 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 19 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 105 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.89
      - Overall: 0.60
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
******************************************
One and Half Laid down Per Year between 1896-1899
Units Built:6
Names:TB7-TB12
0.5 BP per year towards each

EDIT for Hull Strength

miketr

#5
March 19, 2007, 08:24:21 AM
PC-1900, Portugal Protected Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   2,976 t light; 3,096 t standard; 3,385 t normal; 3,616 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   300.00 ft / 300.00 ft x 45.00 ft x 19.50 ft (normal load)
   91.44 m / 91.44 m x 13.72 m  x 5.94 m

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1900 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.70" / 119 mm guns in single mounts, 51.91lbs / 23.55kg shells, 1900 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1900 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 546 lbs / 248 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,792 ihp / 7,305 Kw = 20.50 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 520 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   221 - 288

Cost:
   £0.384 million / $1.536 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 68 tons, 2.0 %
   Armour: 408 tons, 12.1 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 51 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 319 tons, 9.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 39 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 1,590 tons, 47.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 910 tons, 26.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 409 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,310 lbs / 594 Kg = 12.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.66
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.450
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.40 ft / 5.61 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Mid (50 %):      12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Stern:      12.12 ft / 3.69 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.62 ft / 3.85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 176.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,611 Square feet or 800 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 77 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 309 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

**********************************************
Laid Down 1900
Launched 1902
Finished 1903
0.75 BP per year build rate
Units in Class:1
Name: Tagus

The Rock Doctor

#6
March 19, 2007, 08:27:23 AM
Mike, there's a convention that cross-sectional hull strength on torpedo-boats and similar vessels ought to be 0.50 or higher - not just the overall strength.  If it drops below, the hull is considered fragile and greatly at risk of failing.  I've inherited a number of light craft with this issue and can look forward to a few sinkings before I get round to replacing them.  You might want to avoid the issue altogether...

miketr

#7
March 19, 2007, 08:38:25 AM
Thanks for the heads up, a slight pain as the over hull strength is shown on each tab
while the cross sectional hull strength is on just the one tab.

miketr

#8
March 19, 2007, 08:38:59 AM
TB-1904, Portugal Torpedo Boat laid down 1904

Displacement:
   493 t light; 505 t standard; 567 t normal; 617 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   220.00 ft / 220.00 ft x 22.00 ft x 10.25 ft (normal load)
   67.06 m / 67.06 m x 6.71 m  x 3.12 m

Armament:
      3 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1904 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward
   Weight of broadside 9 lbs / 4 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,878 ihp / 7,369 Kw = 26.50 kts
   Range 2,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 111 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   57 - 75

Cost:
   £0.066 million / $0.265 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 344 tons, 60.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 146 tons, 25.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 74 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     131 lbs / 59 Kg = 41.3 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.40
   Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.94 ft / 4.86 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Stern:      10.14 ft / 3.09 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.60 ft / 3.23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 58.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,979 Square feet or 277 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 19 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 103 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.95
      - Overall: 0.60
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

******************************************
One and Half Laid down Per Year between 1904-1905
Units Built:3
Names:TB13, TB14, TB15
0.5 BP per year towards each

miketr

#9
March 19, 2007, 08:53:54 AM
Total Building Program of Portugal 1885-1905
PC-1 Lisbon LD 1885 Finished 1888 HBP 3
PC-2 Porto LD 1893 Finished 1895 HBP 2.25
PC-3 Tagus LD 1900 Finished 1903 HBP 3
TB-1 to TB-6 Run Start 1889 Run End 1892 HBP 3
TB-7 to TB-12 Run Start 1896 Run End 1899 HBP 3
TB-13 to TB-15 Run Start 1904 Run End 1905 HBP 1.5
Total HBP 15.75

Borys

#10
March 19, 2007, 09:01:46 AM
Ahoj!
Lovely!
You indeed are a fecund shipwright!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

miketr

#11
March 19, 2007, 11:45:02 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2007, 11:47:09 PM by miketr
AC-1904, Iberia Armored Cruiser laid down 1904

Displacement:
   8,259 t light; 9,010 t standard; 10,393 t normal; 11,500 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   460.00 ft / 460.00 ft x 55.30 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)
   140.21 m / 140.21 m x 16.86 m  x 7.92 m

Armament:
      6 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (3x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (2x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1904 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1904 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6,090 lbs / 2,762 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   279.50 ft / 85.19 m   8.98 ft / 2.74 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   150.48 ft / 45.87 m   8.98 ft / 2.74 m
     30.02 ft / 9.15 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   279.50 ft / 85.19 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   8.00" / 203 mm            -
   2nd:   10.0" / 254 mm   8.00" / 203 mm            -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   5th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 22,422 shp / 16,727 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,489 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   514 - 669

Cost:
   £1.242 million / $4.970 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 761 tons, 7.3 %
   Armour: 2,280 tons, 21.9 %
      - Belts: 1,085 tons, 10.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 764 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 328 tons, 3.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 103 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,242 tons, 21.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,973 tons, 28.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,135 tons, 20.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,331 lbs / 2,872 Kg = 13.3 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 11.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.51

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.81 ft / 6.95 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.52 ft / 4.43 m
      - Mid (50 %):      14.52 ft / 4.43 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.52 ft / 4.43 m
      - Stern:      14.52 ft / 4.43 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.18 ft / 4.63 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,753 Square feet or 1,649 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 492 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.83
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

**********************************************
Main Turret Layout

b----------C------------
o---A-B------------E---
w---------------D------

B turret is superfiring
C & D turrets cross deck fire
**********************************************
Laid Down 1904
Launched NA
Finished NA
2 BP per year build rate (2 in 1904 & 2 in 1905)
Units in Class:1
Name: NA

P3D

#12
March 20, 2007, 12:15:49 AM
Iberia IIRC does not have the BB Architecture tech for superfiring turrets.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Korpen

#13
March 20, 2007, 03:31:20 AM
Quote from: miketr on March 19, 2007, 11:45:02 PM
Armament:
      6 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (3x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (2x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships    
In deck mounts?
i really think you should fix that, or the guns will be almost useless, as deck mounts are not power assisted, so the crew have to manualy carry the 216kg shells and it charge from a deck locker or from the magazine to the gun. the rof will in be far less then 1 round per minute.
Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

miketr

#14
March 22, 2007, 01:33:11 PM Last Edit: March 23, 2007, 09:27:17 AM by miketr
AC-1904, Iberia Armored Cruiser laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   10,325 t light; 11,047 t standard; 12,888 t normal; 14,362 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   510.00 ft / 510.00 ft x 61.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   155.45 m / 155.45 m x 18.59 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      4 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns in single mounts, 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (2x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1904 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1904 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1904 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,136 lbs / 2,330 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   331.50 ft / 101.04 m   9.14 ft / 2.79 m
   Ends:   3.50" / 89 mm   178.48 ft / 54.40 m   9.14 ft / 2.79 m
   Upper:   3.50" / 89 mm   331.50 ft / 101.04 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   10.0" / 254 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   5th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20,022 shp / 14,936 Kw = 20.75 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,315 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   604 - 786

Cost:
   £1.134 million / $4.537 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 642 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 3,659 tons, 28.4 %
      - Belts: 1,507 tons, 11.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,208 tons, 9.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 826 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 118 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,668 tons, 12.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,353 tons, 33.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,564 tons, 19.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,226 lbs / 6,453 Kg = 29.8 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 15.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.99
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.43

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.580
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.36 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.58 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.84 ft / 7.57 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15.81 ft / 4.82 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15.81 ft / 4.82 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.81 ft / 4.82 m
      - Stern:      15.81 ft / 4.82 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.53 ft / 5.04 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,331 Square feet or 2,075 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 603 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

**********************************************
Main Turret Layout

b--------B--------------
o---A---------------D--
w---------------C------

B & C turrets cross deck fire
**********************************************
Laid Down 1904
Launched NA
Finished NA
2 BP per year build rate (2 in 1904 & 2 in 1905)
Units in Class:1
Name: NA

Edit:God some times I really hate springsharp and miss spring style.  Fixed the turret problem, thanks for the heads up.  Also fixed the broad side maingun firing problem.  Added some extra armor with freed up stability.

Michael
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