Let's say I wanted to join the battlecruiser fan club

Started by Guinness, July 30, 2008, 09:05:35 PM

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Guinness

You think this would get me in?

1913 BC 1912 engines 30 knots large, CSA Battlecruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   33,000 t light; 35,013 t standard; 37,063 t normal; 38,704 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   830.00 ft / 800.00 ft x 96.50 ft x 30.01 ft (normal load)
   252.98 m / 243.84 m x 29.41 m  x 9.15 m

Armament:
      8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      14 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.19lbs / 37.73kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      10 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (5x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1913 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 21.44lbs / 9.73kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 17,341 lbs / 7,866 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 130

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   580.00 ft / 176.78 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   580.00 ft / 176.78 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.25" / 32 mm   580.00 ft / 176.78 m   24.00 ft / 7.32 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   5.75" / 146 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   4th:         -      1.00" / 25 mm            -
   5th:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 137,439 shp / 102,530 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 7,400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,690 tons

Complement:
   1,335 - 1,736

Cost:
   £3.797 million / $15.188 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,855 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 9,768 tons, 26.4 %
      - Belts: 3,866 tons, 10.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 644 tons, 1.7 %
      - Armament: 2,503 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,515 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 239 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 5,480 tons, 14.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,498 tons, 41.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,063 tons, 11.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     43,437 lbs / 19,703 Kg = 25.7 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 5.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.6 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 17.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.92
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.560
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28.28 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 45.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (14 %):   26.50 ft / 8.08 m
      - Mid (60 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (14 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Stern:      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   23.59 ft / 7.19 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 54,385 Square feet or 5,053 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 197 lbs/sq ft or 962 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.21
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weights:
250 t Fire Control
25 t Marconi
10 t Marconi
65 t Flag Facilities
50 t Reserve


P3D

The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Guinness


Guinness

One more pass at a BC:

1913 BC 1912 engines 27 knots, CSA Battleship laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   25,000 t light; 26,548 t standard; 28,265 t normal; 29,638 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   744.26 ft / 735.00 ft x 89.00 ft x 27.50 ft (normal load)
   226.85 m / 224.03 m x 27.13 m  x 8.38 m

Armament:
      6 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2,000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      14 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.19lbs / 37.73kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      10 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (5x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1913 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 21.44lbs / 9.73kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 13,341 lbs / 6,051 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 130

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   480.00 ft / 146.30 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   480.00 ft / 146.30 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.25" / 32 mm   480.00 ft / 146.30 m   24.00 ft / 7.32 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      10.5" / 267 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   4th:         -      1.00" / 25 mm            -
   5th:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 79,828 shp / 59,552 Kw = 27.05 kts
   Range 7,400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,090 tons

Complement:
   1,089 - 1,416

Cost:
   £2.754 million / $11.016 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,433 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 8,595 tons, 30.4 %
      - Belts: 3,870 tons, 13.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 533 tons, 1.9 %
      - Armament: 1,861 tons, 6.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,111 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 220 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 3,183 tons, 11.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,389 tons, 40.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,264 tons, 11.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     34,726 lbs / 15,752 Kg = 20.6 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.78
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.26 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.33 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (50 %):      17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Quarterdeck (21 %):   17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Stern:      17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.72 ft / 5.71 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 45,653 Square feet or 4,241 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 178 lbs/sq ft or 868 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.08
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weights:
250 t Fire Control
25 t Marconi
10 t Marconi
65 t Flag Facilities
50 t Reserve

maddox

33 BP needed tyo build her, takes 5.5 HY's.
Can you afford that?

khymerion

Welcome the BC fan club...  its a mighty submission!
Hopelessly trapped behind mountains of outdated miniature games.

Borys

My name is Borys and I am a Battlecruiser Fan ...
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Guinness

Quote from: maddox on July 30, 2008, 11:58:45 PM
33 BP needed tyo build her, takes 5.5 HY's.
Can you afford that?

The big one: I've got around 24 BP a half right now, and not much to spend it on except ships, so if I really wanted to build her, yeah I could, as soon as I have 1916 propulsion tech. 33,000 tons can also build me a pretty mean 10x15" 21 knot battleship too though.

The Rock Doctor

That first design would get you into the fan club without even having to pay entry fees.

ctwaterman

Shock Horror * No No dont do it dont go to the BC Side*
In an attempt to disuade you.

Can you afford a Squadron of them and if you think you can do that can you afford a squadron of them for the Atlantic and the Pacific.... ;D
Just Browsing nothing to See Move Along

Guinness

I could probably afford two of the big ones at most. They'd probably have to operate together most of the time, so I'd just keep them in whichever ocean GC has the Warriors :)

The Rock Doctor