Swiss Concepts...

Started by Desertfox, July 20, 2008, 10:33:15 PM

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Desertfox

I just moved, and the internet wasn't working well, so with not much else to do I started fiddling with SS2. With all those new battleships running around, I tried to see what NS* would be looking at. Basiclly it's Ise on steriods.

*Since New Zion doesn't have a snowball's chance in Phoenix of building this sucker. Heck even a scale model would use up a year's worth of materials! ;D

Artist conception (OTL Hyuga), interestingly it looks Swiss:


NSS Alaska, New Switzerland Battleship laid down 1916

Displacement:
   30,660 t light; 32,400 t standard; 35,910 t normal; 38,719 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720.00 ft / 720.00 ft x 97.00 ft x 32.90 ft (normal load)
   219.46 m / 219.46 m x 29.57 m  x 10.03 m

Armament:
      12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1,390.00lbs / 630.49kg shells, 1916 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1916 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1916 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1916 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18,136 lbs / 8,226 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     20.00 ft / 6.10 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 7.00" / 178 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 92,905 shp / 69,307 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,319 tons

Complement:
   1,303 - 1,695

Cost:
   £5.644 million / $22.578 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,252 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 10,474 tons, 29.2 %
      - Belts: 3,655 tons, 10.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 3,958 tons, 11.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,698 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 164 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 3,461 tons, 9.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,072 tons, 39.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,251 tons, 14.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     41,755 lbs / 18,940 Kg = 30.4 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.05
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 17.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.85
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.547
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.42 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (50 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Stern:      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.88 ft / 6.67 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 48,604 Square feet or 4,515 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs/sq ft or 970 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.39
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Borys

#1
Immpresive.
However, the KKK finds the following faults:
- underarmoured
- very small reserve of Stability
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Guinness

She is interesting. The CSA has been working on something similar, if not as fast.

I wonder if she wouldn't benefit from a little less length and a little more beam. Accepting one less gun, or a knot or two less speed would allow a lot more protection too, not that the Swiss seem interested in extra armor.

Also, in the CSA's design studies, we've found that the real stability killer is lots of superimposed turrets with thick barbette armour.

The Rock Doctor

Gran Colombia had been considered a variant of the current Furioso class with a sixth turret, as also seen above and in the Triunfante design.  Stability and steadiness were so-so; however, it was cost that nixed the idea.