Help My Cruiser is exposed

Started by ctwaterman, July 07, 2008, 10:41:35 PM

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ctwaterman

Im having a little problem my Light Cruiser Below seems to have an armor problem every time I try to increase the size of the armor to cover that exposed flank er..... magazine or machinery I am told Armor Exceeds size of the ship.  Basically the program wont let me expand the armor anymore but yet the armor doesnt cover the all important machinery and magazines..??????

Tripoli, Italia Tripoli Class PC Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   5,866 t light; 6,088 t standard; 7,195 t normal; 8,081 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   492.13 ft / 492.13 ft x 46.59 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
   150.00 m / 150.00 m x 14.20 m  x 6.00 m

Armament:
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, 3 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns in single mounts, 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 919 lbs / 417 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   315.00 ft / 96.01 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   1.00" / 25 mm   177.00 ft / 53.95 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   2.00" / 51 mm   315.00 ft / 96.01 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   390.00 ft / 118.87 m   2.00 ft / 0.61 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 53,276 shp / 39,744 Kw = 29.34 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,994 tons

Complement:
   389 - 507

Cost:
   £0.654 million / $2.615 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 115 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 1,010 tons, 14.0 %
      - Belts: 472 tons, 6.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 43 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 31 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 447 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 2,124 tons, 29.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,292 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,330 tons, 18.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 4.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,093 lbs / 2,764 Kg = 56.4 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 13.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -9.84 ft / -3.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m (15.65 ft / 4.77 m aft of break)
      - Mid (60 %):      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Stern:      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.98 ft / 5.18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 198.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,121 Square feet or 1,498 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 81 lbs/sq ft or 394 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.43
      - Overall: 1.01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

100T -  Fire Control
200T - 200 Mines
18T - 18 Torpedoes
25T -  Wireless
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miketr

Part of the problem is you are mixing metric and english lengths.  Note your hull is in metric while everything else is in english. 

Also ditch the torpedo belt, the ship is too small to mount a torpedo defense system.

As to your armor problem.  Set the length of the end belt to zero.  Then expand the main belt till it covers the mags / engines.  Then set the length of the end belt to whatever ship length is left.

Michael


Borys

Ahoj!
It's the torpedo bulkhead.
I resimmed your ship, and adding the TDS made SS demand armour lenght of 600 feet as to cover machinery and magazines.

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

miketr

Also you have all of the 8" guns as raised mounts.

Michael

ctwaterman

I have twin turrets so I need to change that I will have to look at rearming the Ship but Ok the Metric and Inches problem does explain what is happening... plus the Torpedo Bulk head..... *sniff*
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ctwaterman

#5
Ok Critisize away - I view this PC as something I can cheaply build and use in Med and Red Sea to escort my BB and main cruisers.   Its job will be to engage TB and DD and independent operations like laying mines and such.   
Tripoli, Italia Tripoli Class PC Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   5,857 t light; 6,088 t standard; 7,195 t normal; 8,081 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   492.13 ft / 492.13 ft x 46.59 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
   150.00 m / 150.00 m x 14.20 m  x 6.00 m

Armament:
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships, 3 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns in single mounts, 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1,000 lbs / 454 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   365.00 ft / 111.25 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2.00" / 51 mm   345.00 ft / 105.16 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 51,486 shp / 38,409 Kw = 29.10 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,994 tons

Complement:
   389 - 507

Cost:
   £0.652 million / $2.607 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 1.7 %
   Armour: 1,060 tons, 14.7 %
      - Belts: 706 tons, 9.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 40 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 298 tons, 4.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 2,053 tons, 28.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,294 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,339 tons, 18.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 4.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,331 lbs / 2,872 Kg = 58.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -9.84 ft / -3.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m (15.65 ft / 4.77 m aft of break)
      - Mid (60 %):      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Stern:      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.98 ft / 5.18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,121 Square feet or 1,498 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 81 lbs/sq ft or 394 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.55
      - Overall: 1.01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

100T -  Fire Control
200T - 200 Mines
18T - 18 Torpedoes
25T -  Wireless

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maddox

The 6" twin deck mounts are real points to avoid.  Vurnable and slow munition supply, slow traverse and so on. Maybe even not accepted in the current ruleset.

QuoteThe French answer.

Cavalerie, French protected cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   5.320 t light; 5.525 t standard; 6.073 t normal; 6.511 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   473,00 ft / 472,00 ft x 50,00 ft x 19,00 ft (normal load)
   144,17 m / 143,87 m x 15,24 m  x 5,79 m

Armament:
      8 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 39,68lbs / 18,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      2 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      6 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.143 lbs / 518 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   390,00 ft / 118,87 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 127% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 45.536 shp / 33.970 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 986 tons

Complement:
   343 - 447

Cost:
   £0,594 million / $2,377 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 130 tons, 2,1%
   Armour: 946 tons, 15,6%
      - Belts: 565 tons, 9,3%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 76 tons, 1,2%
      - Armour Deck: 284 tons, 4,7%
      - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,4%
   Machinery: 1.784 tons, 29,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.160 tons, 35,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 753 tons, 12,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 4,9%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5.125 lbs / 2.325 Kg = 61,2 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,474
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,18 ft / 5,24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 117,1%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118,1%
   Waterplane Area: 15.363 Square feet or 1.427 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 404 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,94
      - Longitudinal: 1,71
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

ctwaterman

Ok - the Twin Gun Mounts if that is not the way to do it then what is the Cruiser Twin Mount  (+5) cutting edge technology 1910 actually used for ??????

I like your design it meets most if not all of my requirements.
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maddox

#8
Oeps missed your cruiser desing state.  redoing my idea.

QuoteCavalerie, French protected cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   5.477 t light; 5.693 t standard; 6.336 t normal; 6.851 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   473,00 ft / 472,00 ft x 50,00 ft x 19,10 ft (normal load)
   144,17 m / 143,87 m x 15,24 m  x 5,82 m

Armament:
      8 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      20 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
      2 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 983 lbs / 446 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   390,00 ft / 118,87 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 127% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2,00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 47.154 shp / 35.177 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.158 tons

Complement:
   354 - 461

Cost:
   £0,594 million / $2,378 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 113 tons, 1,8%
   Armour: 929 tons, 14,7%
      - Belts: 565 tons, 8,9%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 60 tons, 0,9%
      - Armour Deck: 289 tons, 4,6%
      - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0,2%
   Machinery: 1.848 tons, 29,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.188 tons, 34,5%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 859 tons, 13,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 6,3%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5.400 lbs / 2.449 Kg = 64,5 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,492
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,18 ft / 5,24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115,5%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,3%
   Waterplane Area: 15.611 Square feet or 1.450 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 404 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,94
      - Longitudinal: 1,69
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Sachmle

Quote from: maddox on July 07, 2008, 11:59:36 PM
The 6" twin deck mounts are real points to avoid.  Vurnable and slow munition supply, slow traverse and so on. Maybe even not accepted in the current ruleset.

Not really, if one has the tech. The 1910 Cutting Edge (+5): twin gun mounts tech would allow for these, and the tech's qualifier:
QuoteTwin gun mounts requires hoists, and they are power operated. Their armor is limited to splinter protection - 1".
would make the traverse issue a moot point.

As for the design itself, I'd ditch the casemates and go w/ deck mounts for the 3" as well, just no hoist. I'd add that 1" splinter protection to the hoists on the 6"s and then tweak the trim until the steadiness was as close to 70% as I could get w/o the stability dropping below 1.10.
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Desertfox

*grumble* Just as soon as I come up with an interesting and unique design, it is copied! Maybe I should start designing some of them circular battleships...  ;D

As I understand it, the twin mount tech would be something like the Omaha's gunhouses, or the Hawkins gunmounts.
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Sachmle

Quote from: Desertfox on July 08, 2008, 12:36:34 AM
As I understand it, the twin mount tech would be something like the Omaha's gunhouses, or the Hawkins gunmounts.
Yes, probably. Not quite as fast to train as a 4-5" but w/ electric still relatively fast.
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ctwaterman

Not copying anything I believe its called the theory of Parallel Evoloution.... ;D

I would have had to see what you were designing to copy it.....
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ctwaterman

Well I played with the stability and the armor and looked at some of the other designs proposed and here is what I came up with.... Lots and lots of 5" guns for Anti-TB/DD Work and 6 Torpedoes for launching at other Cruisers.   Lots and lots of mines and the ability to run away from most really big ships.

Tripoli, Italia Tripoli Class PC Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   6,111 t light; 6,317 t standard; 7,195 t normal; 7,898 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   492.13 ft / 492.13 ft x 46.59 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
   150.00 m / 150.00 m x 14.20 m  x 6.00 m

Armament:
      6 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (3x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      10 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns in single mounts, 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1,002 lbs / 455 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.75" / 95 mm   391.00 ft / 119.18 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 122 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 57,001 shp / 42,523 Kw = 29.83 kts
   Range 5,500nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,580 tons

Complement:
   389 - 507

Cost:
   £0.695 million / $2.781 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 1.7 %
   Armour: 1,069 tons, 14.9 %
      - Belts: 710 tons, 9.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 44 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 298 tons, 4.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 2,273 tons, 31.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,319 tons, 32.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,085 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 4.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,200 lbs / 2,358 Kg = 83.2 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -9.84 ft / -3.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m (15.65 ft / 4.77 m aft of break)
      - Mid (60 %):      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Stern:      15.65 ft / 4.77 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.98 ft / 5.18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 120.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,121 Square feet or 1,498 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 398 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.53
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

100T -  Fire Control
200T - 200 Mines
18T - 18 Torpedoes
25T -  Wireless
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Jefgte

"...
10 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
..."


Superfiring ?
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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