Gimme your thoughts...

Started by The Rock Doctor, September 15, 2008, 07:34:19 PM

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The Rock Doctor

No, show me what you have in mind. 

Korpen

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on September 17, 2008, 06:33:26 AM
No, show me what you have in mind. 
Very well.
Enough misc weight for FC and radar.
Will not fit in a type 2 dock

Design 1057, Kingdom Trade protection sloop laid down 1912

Displacement:
   15 500 t light; 16 382 t standard; 18 016 t normal; 19 324 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   656,17 ft / 656,17 ft x 68,92 ft x 27,89 ft (normal load)
   200,00 m / 200,00 m x 21,01 m  x 8,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 865,70lbs / 392,68kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 4,72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52,91lbs / 24,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 6 041 lbs / 2 740 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 151
   4 - 17,7" / 450 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   393,70 ft / 120,00 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Ends:   2,76" / 70 mm   262,47 ft / 80,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Upper:   2,76" / 70 mm   393,70 ft / 120,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,48" / 190 mm
   2nd:   1,77" / 45 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 9,84" / 250 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 000 shp / 59 680 Kw = 29,06 kts
   Range 9 515nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 942 tons

Complement:
   776 - 1 010

Cost:
   £1,623 million / $6,492 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 755 tons, 4,2 %
   Armour: 4 792 tons, 26,6 %
      - Belts: 2 438 tons, 13,5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 891 tons, 4,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 317 tons, 7,3 %
      - Conning Tower: 146 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 3 190 tons, 17,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 463 tons, 35,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 517 tons, 14,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1,7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18 244 lbs / 8 275 Kg = 21,1 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 3,4 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 15,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,69
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,52 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25,62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,67 ft / 5,08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 30 131 Square feet or 2 799 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 669 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,15
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

The Rock Doctor

That's some sloop.  Kind of overkill for whacking protected cruisers, but the speed and firepower are interesting.  Hmm.  Gives me an idea to play with tonight...

I'm not profoundly concerned with the ship's length - I have three Type 3 ports and can expand the infrastructure within them if need be.

Jefgte

15500t - 6x305 - 29kts - 200mm protection...

That's a Pocket BattleCruiser.
Her job is to kill PC & AC


Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Korpen

Quote from: Jefgte on September 17, 2008, 07:06:50 AM
15500t - 6x305 - 29kts - 200mm protection...

That's a Pocket BattleCruiser.
Her job is to kill PC & AC


Jef  ;)
There is no "pocket" over her, she is is the same size as most battlecruisers of the "1909"-generation, she simply drops one turret for allot more speed.
Card-carrying member of the Battlecruiser Fan Club.

The Rock Doctor

She'd be an armored cruiser in GC parlance. 

Jefgte


Korpen wrote
QuoteThere is no "pocket" over her, she is is the same size as most battlecruisers of the "1909"-generation, she simply drops one turret for allot more speed.

That's right for 1909 but for 1912, BC are over 20.000t.


Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf