Habsburgs - my 1912 battleships

Started by Borys, June 27, 2008, 03:30:47 AM

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Borys

Ahoj!
I forgot to post - these two ships are "2nd batch Juan de Austria" class.
Nothing fancy about them, with A-P-Q-X turrets.
The deck got minimaly thickened (1/3"), the CT got 2" more armour, the torpedos are of new type - 20", and the range extended (1500nm).

SMS Habsburger Schlachtschiff laid down 1908 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   21 956 t light; 23 157 t standard; 24 585 t normal; 25 727 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   551,18 ft / 551,18 ft x 87,27 ft x 29,23 ft (normal load)
   168,00 m / 168,00 m x 26,60 m  x 8,91 m

Armament:
      8 - 13,50" / 343 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1 250,00lbs / 566,99kg shells, 1908 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     12 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1908 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 0,43" / 11,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,04lbs / 0,02kg shells, 1908 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 11 362 lbs / 5 154 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 20,0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,0" / 330 mm   350,00 ft / 106,68 m   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
   Ends:   4,00" / 102 mm   201,00 ft / 61,26 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Upper:   8,00" / 203 mm   350,00 ft / 106,68 m   10,50 ft / 3,20 m
     Main Belt covers 98% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,50" / 38 mm   350,00 ft / 106,68 m   48,00 ft / 14,63 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,0" / 330 mm   6,00" / 152 mm      11,0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm         -         2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,30" / 58 mm, Conning tower: 13,00" / 330 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 37 738 shp / 28 153 Kw = 22,00 kts
   Range 8 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 570 tons (80% coal)

Complement:
   981 - 1 276

Cost:
   £2,182 million / $8,728 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 412 tons, 5,7%
   Armour: 10 205 tons, 41,5%
      - Belts: 5 266 tons, 21,4%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 932 tons, 3,8%
      - Armament: 2 256 tons, 9,2%
      - Armour Deck: 1 514 tons, 6,2%
      - Conning Tower: 237 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 1 623 tons, 6,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 315 tons, 33,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 629 tons, 10,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33 867 lbs / 15 362 Kg = 27,5 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 5,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 4,9 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 16,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,612
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,00 ft / 8,84 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   22,00 ft / 6,71 m
      - Mid (50%):      19,50 ft / 5,94 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   19,50 ft / 5,94 m
      - Stern:      19,50 ft / 5,94 m
      - Average freeboard:   20,94 ft / 6,38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,1%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138,7%
   Waterplane Area: 35 577 Square feet or 3 305 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 161 lbs/sq ft or 787 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,84
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Made some final touches
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Jefgte

#1
Well balanced BB

4T2x343 disposition idem to Atahualpa BB

http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2193.0


Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Sachmle

#2
Quote from: Borys on June 27, 2008, 03:30:47 AM
Ahoj!
I forgot to post - these two ships are "2nd batch Juan de Austria" class.
Nothing fancy about them, with A-P-Q-X turrets.

My guess would be APQY. Like Gangut ;D
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Borys

Ahoj!
Thank you, I stand corrected. I simply NEVER remember the designation of the last turret - is it Z, or X, or Y.

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Sachmle

#4
For some reason unknown to me if there is only 1 turret aft it's the "Y" turret, but if there are 2 the on farthest aft is "Y" and the other is "X". "Q" is always amidships, fore most is always "A". None of it except the "A" really makes any sense to me anyway.

The only time it's EVER really made sense was Agincourt w/ the whole days of the week thing.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Borys

#5
Ahoj!
There was thread on this on the battleships board not so long ago.

The idea is to use letters which are not confusing when you say them out loud, i.e. do not rhyme:
Ay
Bee
Pee (supposedly from "port") - rhymes with Bee, but there never was a ship with Bee and Pee on it;
Que
Why
Eks

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!