NUS Riverine craft

Started by Sachmle, June 09, 2008, 11:36:32 PM

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Sachmle

Wooden built river patrol craft.

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.

R-100 Class, NUS River Patrolboat laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   200 t light; 206 t standard; 231 t normal; 251 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   206.00 ft / 203.00 ft x 20.50 ft x 4.67 ft (normal load)
   62.79 m / 61.87 m x 6.25 m  x 1.42 m

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline forward, 1 raised gun
      4 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns in single mounts, 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      1 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine gun in deck mount
     on centreline aft
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
   Weight of broadside 16 lbs / 7 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 1,615 shp / 1,205 Kw = 19.33 kts
   Range 2,150nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 45 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   29 - 38

Cost:
   £0.020 million / $0.081 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 71 tons, 30.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 118 tons, 50.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 31 tons, 13.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 4.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     357 lbs / 162 Kg = 26.4 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.43

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.416
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.05 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Mid (50 %):      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Stern:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,452 Square feet or 228 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 138 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 134 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.05
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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Steel hulled River monitor

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.

R-200 Class, NUS River Monitor laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   600 t light; 627 t standard; 651 t normal; 670 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   231.00 ft / 228.00 ft x 28.00 ft x 6.50 ft (normal load)
   70.41 m / 69.49 m x 8.53 m  x 1.98 m

Armament:
      2 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns in single mounts, 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
   Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   140.00 ft / 42.67 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 1,533 shp / 1,143 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 43 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   63 - 83

Cost:
   £0.044 million / $0.175 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 1.8 %
   Armour: 247 tons, 37.9 %
      - Belts: 144 tons, 22.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 16 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 80 tons, 12.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 6 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 67 tons, 10.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 249 tons, 38.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 51 tons, 7.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 3.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,704 lbs / 773 Kg = 53.3 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 11.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.21
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.549
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.14 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.05 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Mid (50 %):      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Stern:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 53.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 104.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,316 Square feet or 401 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 195 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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Otto von Bismarck

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Kaiser Wilhelm

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The Rock Doctor

In general, I like them and think a few would be a good investment.  They are perhaps faster than necessary, but that's your call.  I'd consider ~15 knots to be fast for a river boat.

On R-100, I'd suggest considering a single small howitzer in place of some of the several machine guns, to give an indirect fire capability.  Similar weapons might replace the 76.2 mm on the R-200 (or not, if you just want a river "battleship".

Adding some additional superstructure on both types might be good, as the freeboard and draught only allow for one full-height deck. 






Jefgte

19kts are too much for a river Boat.

Because of damages on the banks,10 to 12 kts are enough.


Jef  ;)
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Borys

Ahoj!
The rivers there might have strong currents. And are big - so speed can be useful, even if unecessary.
Camping out on the deck may not be the best idea in those mosqito infested areas, so I agree with the comment on superstructure.
And the howitzer too.
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Sachmle

If slowed to 15 knots would 1 stack be sufficient? If so I'll add superstructure in that area. As to the howitzer v. machine guns the idea was to be able to put down a withering fire across the banks if ground forces are nearby, and use HE rounds from the 3" for things needed more "oomph" to get rid of.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Borys

Ahoj!
After some thought, a howitzer might be too advanced thinking. A QF 3" firing shrapnel is a wall of fire!
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Sachmle

#6
How's this look?

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.


R-100, NUS River Patrolboat laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   200 t light; 207 t standard; 256 t normal; 295 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   215.00 ft / 212.00 ft x 20.75 ft x 5.00 ft (normal load)
   65.53 m / 64.62 m x 6.32 m  x 1.52 m

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing gun in deck mount
     on centreline forward
      4 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns in single mounts, 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1906 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
      1 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns in single mounts, 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1906 Model
     Machine gun in deck mount
     on centreline aft
   Weight of broadside 16 lbs / 7 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 648 ihp / 483 Kw = 15.00 kts
   Range 2,500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 88 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   31 - 41

Cost:
   £0.016 million / $0.064 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 43 tons, 16.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 145 tons, 56.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 56 tons, 21.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 3.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     812 lbs / 368 Kg = 60.2 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.407
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.22 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 16.70 degrees
   Stern overhang: -2.00 ft / -0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Stern:      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 65.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,574 Square feet or 239 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 229 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 129 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 4.05
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Oops.... posted wrong SS w/ the new pic. Updated to correct SS report.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim