New Switzerland

[Desertfox]

Anything to do with it will go here for the time being.


Short timeline with important points:

1650 New Switzerland discovered

1665 Swiss Civil War, Swiss catholics ask Austria for help, Switzerland becomes Austrian province.

1689 English-French war, William & Mary crowned King and Queen of England

1701 War of Spanish Sucession, James II helped by France defeats William. William flees to New Amsterdam (NY)

1709 William driven from New Amsterdam, flees to Australia

1789 Voyages of Captain Littlestone, Hawaii/Numador discovered

1867 Alaska purchase from Russia (before it breaksup) for 7 million Dollars

1900 Phony War, Firajistan and NS face of in Central Australia.

1901 Swiss-Chinese War begins over Macau/Hong Kong.

1902 NSS Phoenix explodes in Manila Bay, Spanish-Swiss War begins, Battle of Manila Bay. Swiss-Chinese War ends, NS loses Hong Kong.

1903 Austria joins the Spanish, Taipei Bombarded, Battle of Taiwan Strait, joint Austro/Spanish force defeated.

1904 Taal Volcano eruption, Peace declared, NS gets Southern Phillipines.

[Desertfox]

Revised NSN OOB for 1906:

Note only large ships for now, still working on the destroyers.

2 Battlecruisers BC 4x12in, 24kt
NSS Constitution
NSS Alliance

1 Battleship BB 6x12in, 21kt
NSS United States (Under construction)

1 Battleship BB 4x12in, 21kt
NSS Hawaii

1 Battleship BB 4x12in, 18kt
NSS Australia

1 Heavy Cruiser AC 4x9in, 27kt.
NSS Antares

2 Heavy Cruisers AC 4x9in, 27kt.
NSS Atair
NSS Aldebaradan

1 Heavy Cruisers AC 4x8in, 25kt.
NSS Rigel (being upgraded to Atair status)

2  Cruisers CC 4x8in, 24kt
NSS Honolulu
NSS Pearl Harbor

3 Cruisers CC 4x8in, 22kt
NSS Olympia
NSS Sydney
NSS Anchorage
NSS Melbourne (sunk)
NSS Phoenix (sunk)

1 Coastal Battleships CB 4x10in, 15kt
NSS Alaska
NSS Australia (sunk)

1 Coastal Battleship CB 2x12in, 15kt
NSS Defence
NSS Justice (sunk)

2 Cruisers CC 4x8in, 25kt
NSS Launceston
NSS Melbourne

4 Cruisers CC 2x10", 8x6", 22kt
Tuna class equivalent

9 Protected Cruisers 6x6", 22kt
Cod class equivalent (1 sunk)

10 Protected Cruisers 2x6", 17kt
NSS Atlanta class (4 sunk)



Most of the big ships will have a story behind them. the Constitutions are a bit faster to give the Germans a good reason to build S&G.

[Earl822]

No Jaguar Class?

[Desertfox]

I haven't gotten to the Light Cruisers and Destroyers yet. There will be a Jaguar class.

[Earl822]

A minor one on the Tuna class, why not go for the 9inch gun?

[Desertfox]

Because I like'em with the 10", the IC reason is that they where built before the 9" gun was developed.

[Desertfox]

Minor changes to history.

On the ships, both the Constitutions and the Atairs will be a bit newer and better (faster), also Im trying to reduce the ACM factor, so Hawaii and Australia will be Swiss built, with Hawaii rebuilt (new ship slipped under name plate) after being nearly pounded to pieces at 3rd Taiwan.

DD/CL numbers will be pretty much the same, with more Wys class (less losses) and fewer ex-ACM DDs. However the DDs will be slightly different as my original designs had too much draft.

[Desertfox]

Great Lakes and Light Ships finished.


The Great Lakes Treaty limited the respective fleets to no more that 30,000 tons. No ship larger than 10,000 tons or with guns bigger than 10 inches would be allowed. However the parties came to an unoffical agreeement limiting fleets to half the agreed tonnage, and ships to Type 1 Docks (393ft) and 210mm guns. The NSN Fleet comes out to 13,500 tons. Ill see if I can get Swampy to design some "German" style ships for the Muslims.

Great Lakes fleet:

1 Great Lakes Cruiser CG 2x8", 22kt
NSS Geneva

2 Great Lakes Gunboats GG 6x6", 17kt
NSS Murray
NSS Darling

1 Great Lakes Minelayer MG 4x6", 17kt
NSS Lake Eyre

2 Great Lakes Gunboats GG 1x6", 17kt

2 Great Lakes Destroyers DG 2x5", 22kt
NSS Kangaroo
NSS Koala

10 Great Lakes Torpedoboats TG 1x3", 2x18" TT, 17kt
TG-1 class

5 Torpedo Boats TB 4x18" TT, 30kt
Turbinia class

1 Harbor Patrol AG, 1x3", 15 kt
AG-1





1 "Mystery Ship" SGX 4x14in dynamite guns, 22.9kt
NSSx Vesuvius

8 Light Cruisers LC 5x6in, 4TT, 27kt
NSS Jaguar
NSS Lion
NSS Tiger

planned:
NSS Leopard
NSS Ocelot
NSS Panther
NSS Cheeta
NSS Wildcat

2 Light Cruisers LC 4x6in, 4TT, 25kt
NSS Polar Bear
NSS Grizzly

7 Light Cruisers LC 2x6in, 4x4in, 4TT, 25kt
NSS Nessie
NSS Beleraphon
NSS Valkyrie
NSS Scycilia
NSS Sphinx
NSS Bagheera
NSS Pegasus

4 Destroyers DD 2x4in, 4TT, 24kt
NSS Johann Wyss
NSS Van Winkle
NSS James Watt
NSS John Walter

8 Destroyers DD 3x4in, 4TT, 27kt
NSS Van Hake
NSS Van Antwerp
6 more

25 Destroyers DD 2x4in, 4TT, 25kt
NSS Fritz class

10 Destroyers DD 2x4in, 4TT, 25kt
NSS Mendez class

15 Destroyers DD 2x4in, 4TT, 27kt
NSS Littelstone class

16 Destroyers DDs 2x4in, 4TT, 29kt
NSS Fisher class (ex-CSA TR 1896 class)

20 Gun Boats GB 2x4in, 21kt (220t)
(rebuild ex-ACM G1 class)


Removed 12 Mendez class and replaced them with 1 Fritz, 10 Littlestone*, 4 Van Hakes*

*Can be counted as new (post 1904) construction.

[Desertfox]

A few ships I missed:

1 Colonial Battleship CB 4x8in, 15kts
NSS Liberty

2 Protected Cruisers PC 5x5in, 21kts
ex-Spanish

5 Destroyers DD
ex-Spanish


And a few non NSN Warships:

Swiss Secret Service
SS Ulysses

Privateer (Captain Sparrow)
SS Princess Anne

Special Ops
NSS Manta (Cod class)


A note on the Spanish ships: They will replace ex-ACM ships I had, and Marek did state that some defected. No gain here just some different ships to play with.

[Desertfox]

Some info on the territorial organisation and goverment:

Official Name: Swiss Confederacy
Unofficial Name: Swiss Empire
Better Known As: New Switzerland


United States of New Switzerland
Capital: Phoenix
Land: Everything not covered by the rest

Kingdom of Australia
Capital: Sydney

Principality of New Amsterdam
Capital: New Amsterdam (Darwin)
Land: North Australia, Moluccas, Western New Guinea
(puppet state of KA)

Republic of China
Capital: Taipei
Land: Taiwan
(Puppet state of NS)

Republic of the Philippines
Capital: Cebu City
Land: Southern half of Phillipines (everything except Luzon and Catandunes)
(Puppet state of NS)


The goverment is going to be a mess as I have a Kingdom and a Republic, each with puppet states in a Confederation. NS will be the senior partner and in control of foreign policy and the Navy. The other members will be able to dictate internal policy and will have control of their own Army.

[Ithekro]

I imagine you'll have some dispute over the Republic of the Philippines...if not outright war.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
I am certain that there is no Republic of the Philippines.
And when and how did the NS reaquire Taiwan?

Borys

[Desertfox]

What you say and whats reality are two different things...

I aquired Taiwan late 1904 in Navalism II, here I would not have lost in in the first place. As for the Phillipines, Maddox can testify, that for all practical purposes the Southern Half would have fallen into my hands very late in 1904 (December)

[The Rock Doctor]

I guess a problem I'm having with this debate over NS activity in 1904/5 is the degree of it.  You were talking about stunts in at least four different locations within three-four months of each other, with a worst case scenario of finding yourself at war with Gran Colombia, Rohan, Austria, CSA, Spain(s), DKB, MK.  Not to mention the Gabi nations we left behind at the other board.

I can't believe that any government would authorize such a range of potential escapades, and I have doubts that you would have attempted them all if there had been players for several of the nations listed above.  I'm of the opinion that you should be happy to have gotten away with your looting in Jamaica, whatever may or may not have happened in the Virgins, and just drop the matter of the Philippines.  If you want it, earn it by stealing it away now that there are players to oppose you.

[Desertfox]

Plus I tried to buy the Bahamas and nearly blasted a Chinese fleet out of spite. I had my fingers in too many pies and barely extracted them out of most.

The Virgins was a straight business transaction and I dont see why anyone would be angry at it, its just a few very small islands. As for the Phillipines, the Swiss-Spanish war never ended, a cease fire was declared when both me and Marek left. But with Spain in a civil war it would have been easy to snap them up. And I still dont see why the DKB would fight over them. Its just a case of NS restarting a never completed war to snap up what it was fighting for.

1902, 04, or 06 the date doesnt really matter, if Borys wants to fight, I would be glad too.