Battleships for Peru

Started by Jefgte, April 07, 2008, 06:19:20 PM

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The Rock Doctor

The 340mm design is a safer bet in some respects - the guns will exist, there'll be four turrets versus two.

For a ship that size, I'd want a heavier secondary battery.  Perhaps shave off 10mm of deck armor to double the secondary?

Jefgte


Testing this one for 1915 Allianza Squadron


25700T-4T3x340-APQY, Peru BB laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   25 700 t light; 27 271 t standard; 29 100 t normal; 30 563 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   590.55 ft / 590.55 ft x 98.43 ft x 28.45 ft (normal load)
   180.00 m / 180.00 m x 30.00 m  x 8.67 m

Armament:
      6 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1 200.00lbs / 544.31kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1 200.00lbs / 544.31kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all amidships
      12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      16 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm guns in single mounts, 22.24lbs / 10.09kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm guns in single mounts, 4.00lbs / 1.81kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 15 405 lbs / 6 987 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   380.58 ft / 116.00 m   12.73 ft / 3.88 m
   Ends:   4.02" / 102 mm   177.17 ft / 54.00 m   10.17 ft / 3.10 m
     32.81 ft / 10.00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   4.02" / 102 mm   380.58 ft / 116.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.77" / 45 mm   380.58 ft / 116.00 m   40.03 ft / 12.20 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   4.72" / 120 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13.4" / 340 mm   4.72" / 120 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.54" / 90 mm, Conning tower: 13.39" / 340 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 48 000 shp / 35 808 Kw = 22.84 kts
   Range 8 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3 293 tons

Complement:
   1 113 - 1 448

Cost:
   £4.049 million / $16.198 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 924 tons, 6.6 %
   Armour: 10 183 tons, 35.0 %
      - Belts: 3 677 tons, 12.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 999 tons, 3.4 %
      - Armament: 2 405 tons, 8.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 829 tons, 9.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 273 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1 914 tons, 6.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 129 tons, 38.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 400 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 550 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     35 371 lbs / 16 044 Kg = 29.5 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 6.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 6.0 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.616
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.30 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.23 ft / 8.30 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   20.67 ft / 6.30 m
      - Mid (33 %):      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Stern:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.70 ft / 5.70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 43 151 Square feet or 4 009 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 192 lbs/sq ft or 939 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.60
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

28000t for Alianza Squadron


28000T-5T3x340-APQXY, Peru BB laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   28 000 t light; 29 765 t standard; 31 470 t normal; 32 834 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   623.36 ft / 623.36 ft x 98.43 ft x 29.14 ft (normal load)
   190.00 m / 190.00 m x 30.00 m  x 8.88 m

Armament:
      9 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1 199.24lbs / 543.97kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      6 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1 199.24lbs / 543.97kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all amidships
      12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm guns in single mounts, 4.00lbs / 1.81kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 18 745 lbs / 8 503 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 105
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   400.26 ft / 122.00 m   12.73 ft / 3.88 m
   Ends:   4.02" / 102 mm   190.29 ft / 58.00 m   10.17 ft / 3.10 m
     32.81 ft / 10.00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   4.02" / 102 mm   400.26 ft / 122.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.57" / 40 mm   400.26 ft / 122.00 m   28.74 ft / 8.76 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   4.02" / 102 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13.4" / 340 mm   4.02" / 102 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.35" / 85 mm, Conning tower: 13.39" / 340 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 44 000 shp / 32 824 Kw = 22.19 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3 069 tons

Complement:
   1 180 - 1 535

Cost:
   £4.646 million / $18.583 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 343 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 10 499 tons, 33.4 %
      - Belts: 3 854 tons, 12.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 670 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 2 867 tons, 9.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 820 tons, 9.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 287 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1 754 tons, 5.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12 929 tons, 41.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 469 tons, 11.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 475 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     37 549 lbs / 17 032 Kg = 31.3 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 5.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 17.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.86
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.34

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.616
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.90 ft / 8.20 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   21.46 ft / 6.54 m
      - Mid (70 %):      20.80 ft / 6.34 m (12.80 ft / 3.90 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Stern:      12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.08 ft / 5.82 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 45 548 Square feet or 4 232 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1 025 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.51
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

That's a pretty tough customer. 

Will the main belt be long enough to actually cover the ship's vitals?

Jefgte

The belt is slightly over the normal lenght.


Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Tanthalas

#50
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on April 22, 2008, 06:49:04 AM
When has that minor detail ever stopped the NeoSwiss?

Since I took over (and started building 1kton cans while scraping the old light hulls), but honestly noone needs to worry about going to war with me (I want to normalise all my relations)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Desertfox

Aeiiii!!! What sort of (non) madman have we put in charge of NS?  ;D

AIGF

"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

Tanthalas

Quote from: Desertfox on September 12, 2008, 12:54:20 PM
Aeiiii!!! What sort of (non) madman have we put in charge of NS?  ;D

AIGF



Normal dosnt meen they have to stay normal ^.^
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War