Born of the Peru Fleet

Started by Jefgte, April 03, 2008, 05:55:29 AM

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Jefgte


Rio Serena class , Peru Patrol boat laid down 1893

1893
Rio Serena
Rio Moropa
Rio Pastaza
1894
Rio Tigre
Rio Putumayo
Rio Napo

Displacement:
   150 t light; 154 t standard; 157 t normal; 159 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   131.23 ft / 131.23 ft x 17.72 ft x 5.91 ft (normal load)
   40.00 m / 40.00 m x 5.40 m  x 1.80 m

Armament:
      2 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm guns in single mounts, 4.00lbs / 1.81kg shells, 1893 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1893 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8 lbs / 4 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm   124.67 ft / 38.00 m   6.17 ft / 1.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 146 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 260 ihp / 194 Kw = 12.31 kts
   Range 900nm at 5.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   21 - 28

Cost:
   £0.013 million / $0.052 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 39 tons, 24.6 %
      - Belts: 24 tons, 15.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 1.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 13 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 49 tons, 31.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 56 tons, 35.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7 tons, 4.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5 tons, 3.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     180 lbs / 82 Kg = 45.1 x 2.0 " / 51 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.40
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 9.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.88

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.41 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 11.46 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 38
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      8.86 ft / 2.70 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   8.86 ft / 2.70 m
      - Mid (30 %):      4.92 ft / 1.50 m
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   4.92 ft / 1.50 m
      - Stern:      4.92 ft / 1.50 m
      - Average freeboard:   5.87 ft / 1.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 431 Square feet or 133 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 117 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

They look like handy little short-range patrol boats.

Sachmle

Belt and deck armor on a 150t ship? Why? She's so expendable it's not worth it. I'd put the weight saved into more range or speed. Other than that she is a handy little ship.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Borys

#3
Ahoj!
Quote from: Sachmle on April 03, 2008, 02:20:47 PM
Belt and deck armor on a 150t ship?
Wait until you see more of Jefgte's designs.
He's quite an excentric :)
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Sachmle

I've seen some on the other discussion boards I frequent.  He also does out-f*ckin'-standing scratch built models.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Ithekro

So we are in for a ride then?  ???

Jefgte

Belt & armour are just 20mm

I install them for the stability.
The machinery is 49T for 12.3kts on a 150T ship - 33% of the deplacement.
When I remove the belt armour the ship nearly caspize.


Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Carthaginian

Quote from: Ithekro on April 03, 2008, 03:27:54 PM
So we are in for a ride then?  ???

http://www.phpbbplanet.com/warshipprojects/viewtopic.php?t=1623&mforum=warshipprojects

Jef's scratch-built family of WWII Panzerschiffs.
As you can see, had the Kriegsmarine had this man working for them, they'd have probably won the naval war. ;)
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Jefgte

A better Serana Coastal Gun Boat

more guns & range increase


Serena, Peru Coastal Gun Boat laid down 1893

Displacement:
   150 t light; 156 t standard; 173 t normal; 187 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   124.67 ft / 124.67 ft x 17.81 ft x 6.59 ft (normal load)
   38.00 m / 38.00 m x 5.43 m  x 2.01 m

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1893 Model
     Breech loading gun in deck mount
     on centreline
      4 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm guns in single mounts, 4.00lbs / 1.81kg shells, 1893 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1893 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 13 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 250 ihp / 186 Kw = 12.38 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 7.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 31 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   23 - 31

Cost:
   £0.015 million / $0.060 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 tons, 2.1 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 2.4 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 47 tons, 27.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 85 tons, 49.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 13.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 5.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     235 lbs / 106 Kg = 17.4 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 0.5 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0.414
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 36
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
      - Mid (40 %):      8.37 ft / 2.55 m
      - Quarterdeck (8 %):   8.37 ft / 2.55 m
      - Stern:      8.37 ft / 2.55 m
      - Average freeboard:   9.50 ft / 2.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 431 Square feet or 133 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 123 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.76
      - Longitudinal: 11.86
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf