Improved County-Class lightcruisers

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ledeper

Improved County-Class, Baltic Confederation     light cruisers laid down 1912

Displacement:
   5.597 t light; 5.785 t standard; 6.435 t normal; 6.955 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520,10 ft / 508,53 ft x 49,21 ft x 21,33 ft (normal load)
   158,53 m / 155,00 m x 15,00 m  x 6,50 m

Armament:
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns (4x2 guns), 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 389 lbs / 176 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,42 ft / 2,57 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   177,97 ft / 54,25 m   8,42 ft / 2,57 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      4,00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 6,00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 44.441 shp / 33.153 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 5.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.170 tons

Complement:
   358 - 466

Cost:
   £0,485 million / $1,939 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 49 tons, 0,8 %
   Armour: 1.392 tons, 21,6 %
      - Belts: 791 tons, 12,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 122 tons, 1,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 434 tons, 6,7 %
      - Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1.772 tons, 27,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.185 tons, 33,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 838 tons, 13,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 3,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.268 lbs / 3.297 Kg = 227,1 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,422
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,80 ft / 7,56 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Stern:      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,50 ft / 5,03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 15.624 Square feet or 1.452 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 388 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,44
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


P3D

Undergunned. The two 29kts Orange frigates have better armament, are armored against 6" shells, lighter and already commissioned.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

ledeper

Improved County-Class, , Baltic Confederation      ligth cruisers  laid down 1912

Displacement:
   6.021 t light; 6.245 t standard; 6.850 t normal; 7.334 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520,10 ft / 508,53 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,04 ft (normal load)
   158,53 m / 155,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,50 m

Armament:
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 1.000 lbs / 454 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,42 ft / 2,57 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 6,00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 55.309 shp / 41.261 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 4.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.089 tons

Complement:
   376 - 489

Cost:
   £0,624 million / $2,498 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 1,8 %
   Armour: 1.124 tons, 16,4 %
      - Belts: 681 tons, 9,9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 79 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 317 tons, 4,6 %
      - Conning Tower: 47 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 2.205 tons, 32,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.367 tons, 34,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 829 tons, 12,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2,9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5.427 lbs / 2.462 Kg = 50,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22
   Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 13,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,531
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,80 ft / 7,56 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Stern:      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,50 ft / 5,03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 17.156 Square feet or 1.594 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 411 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,26
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent



Or


Improved County-Class, , Baltic Confederation      ligth cruisers  laid down 1912

Displacement:
   5.903 t light; 6.124 t standard; 6.722 t normal; 7.201 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520,10 ft / 508,53 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,04 ft (normal load)
   158,53 m / 155,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,50 m

Armament:
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 1.000 lbs / 454 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,42 ft / 2,57 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 6,00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 47.452 shp / 35.399 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 4.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.077 tons

Complement:
   370 - 482

Cost:
   £0,576 million / $2,306 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 1,9 %
   Armour: 1.352 tons, 20,1 %
      - Belts: 912 tons, 13,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 79 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 314 tons, 4,7 %
      - Conning Tower: 46 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1.892 tons, 28,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.334 tons, 34,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 819 tons, 12,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 3,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6.577 lbs / 2.983 Kg = 60,9 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
   Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,521
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,80 ft / 7,56 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Stern:      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,50 ft / 5,03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 16.999 Square feet or 1.579 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 408 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,27
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


Korpen

I have a hard time chosing as they both hav som great problems with their armour. On both the versions it is not long enogh to cover all it should cover, also i think it is too shorth for high speed cruisers. As it is only about 2,5m hig there is likley that shells can pentrate under the belt while the ships is at speed or due to wave action, or hit above the belt can make holes that take in water thanks to the ships movment in the sea.
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ledeper

Improved County-Class, Baltic Confederation       ligth cruisers  laid down 1912

Displacement:
   7.277 t light; 7.531 t standard; 8.371 t normal; 9.044 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520,10 ft / 508,53 ft x 49,21 ft x 21,33 ft (normal load)
   158,53 m / 155,00 m x 15,00 m  x 6,50 m

Armament:
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 1.000 lbs / 454 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   363,35 ft / 110,75 m   11,71 ft / 3,57 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   330,54 ft / 100,75 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6,00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 54.998 shp / 41.029 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 4.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.512 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   436 - 568

Cost:
   £0,697 million / $2,790 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 1,5 %
   Armour: 2.007 tons, 24,0 %
      - Belts: 1.268 tons, 15,1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 40 tons, 0,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 646 tons, 7,7 %
      - Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 2.412 tons, 28,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.483 tons, 29,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.094 tons, 13,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 3,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.498 lbs / 3.401 Kg = 69,4 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
   Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,549
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,80 ft / 7,56 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Stern:      15,78 ft / 4,81 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,50 ft / 5,03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 17.449 Square feet or 1.621 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 408 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,34
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate