Netherlands auxiliaries

[The Rock Doctor]

That's quite a bargain for the capability.

[Sachmle]

Nice handy little aux, I'd buy one if I had anywhere to go.............. ;D

[Tanthalas]

Nice handy little aux, I'd buy one if I had anywhere to go.............. ;D

LOL Valid point for you

[Korpen]

The most radical refit/rebuild conducted so far. All the armament from this Konigin Regentes battleship is removed (and scraped), most of the interior is ripped out and about 20cm of reinforced concrete to poured on the deck the strengthen it. The conning tower is also getting reinforced with large amounts of armed concrete. The internal subdivisions is increased, and more pumps added. The ship is lacking all long term accommodations for the crew, and all crew positions are below the armoured deck and behind the belts.   


MS1, Netherlands Target ship laid down 1890

Displacement:
   13 012 t light; 13 305 t standard; 14 651 t normal; 15 727 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   328,08 ft / 328,08 ft x 82,02 ft x 26,25 ft (normal load)
   100,00 m / 100,00 m x 25,00 m  x 8,00 m

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,2" / 310 mm   229,66 ft / 70,00 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Ends:   5,91" / 150 mm     91,86 ft / 28,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,91" / 150 mm   229,66 ft / 70,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Armour deck: 10,00" / 254 mm, Conning tower: 35,43" / 900 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 12 148 ihp / 9 062 Kw = 16,64 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 422 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   665 - 865

Cost:
   £0,770 million / $3,081 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0,0 %
   Armour: 7 030 tons, 48,0 %
      - Belts: 2 490 tons, 17,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 0 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 4 083 tons, 27,9 %
      - Conning Tower: 457 tons, 3,1 %
   Machinery: 2 250 tons, 15,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 512 tons, 24,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 639 tons, 11,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 220 tons, 1,5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27 086 lbs / 12 286 Kg = 50,5 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 3,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
   Metacentric height 6,0 ft / 1,8 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,726
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 52,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 071 Square feet or 2 050 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 117 lbs/sq ft or 573 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,03
      - Longitudinal: 2,98
      - Overall: 1,15
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

[The Rock Doctor]

Probably a good idea and design.  Where would you base her?  I'd assume the NEI, as home waters would be a little crowded for live-fire shoots.

[Korpen]

Probably a good idea and design.  Where would you base her?  I'd assume the NEI, as home waters would be a little crowded for live-fire shoots.

Initially Scapa is likely to be the place. The waters around north scotland is not so crowded as the Dutch coast.

[Tanthalas]

I LOVE THIS IDEA, searveing the same purpose USS Idaho was at pearl (I think it was Idaho anyway)

[Ithekro]

Depends on when you are talking about.  If you mean for December 7, 1941 (aside from the rest of the fleet being used for bombing and torpedo practise by the Japanese Navy) than you probably mean U.S.S. Utah...which is still there on the north side of Ford Island much like U.S.S. Arizona is on the south side.

[Korpen]

VoC, Netherlands Tanker laid down 1911

Displacement:
   3 400 t light; 3 603 t standard; 10 049 t normal; 15 206 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   461,66 ft / 459,32 ft x 65,62 ft x 19,69 ft (normal load)
   140,71 m / 140,00 m x 20,00 m  x 6,00 m

Armament:
      2 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 40 lbs / 18 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 082 shp / 14 235 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 49 470nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 11 603 tons

Complement:
   501 - 652

Cost:
   £0,245 million / $0,979 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 867 tons, 8,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 319 tons, 23,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 649 tons, 66,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 209 tons, 2,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40 200 lbs / 18 234 Kg = 1 933,3 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 6,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2,29
   Metacentric height 9,5 ft / 2,9 m
   Roll period: 8,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,74

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,593
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,31 ft / 6,80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m (11,48 ft / 3,50 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      11,48 ft / 3,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m (11,48 ft / 3,50 m before break)
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   14,56 ft / 4,44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 32,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 21 896 Square feet or 2 034 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 506 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 370 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,09
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

3000 ton of fuel for own use = 12 500nm


Well, as turbines are supposed to be paid for speratly for merchant ships, her cost woul be:
BP= 2,533/4+867 = 1,5BP
€ = 1,23/+0,867*2 = €2,04

The hulls costs (2,533BP & 1,23€) is without engines.

[Korpen]

A small tanker designed for operations with the costal defence forces (read: the KTB-2 TBs).

Her mission profile is quite simple, she carries enough fuel, ammo and torpedoes to allow for a four ship group to conducts three all–fuel using patrols, of which two would expend all 88mm gun ammo and torpedoes. She then have enough fuel to get them and herself back to base, which can be up to 2500nm distant. Her shallow draft will allow her to get up many of lochs in the west of the Celtic parts of the kingdom as well as the myriad of rivers in the NOI.
In both cases it is envisioned that the TB crews get quartered ashore in some suitable village.

She is in effect a mobile supply chase, allowing the costal forces to reinforce the defence of costal areas far from the large bases.

, Netherlands Tanker laid down 1912

Displacement:
   672 t light; 725 t standard; 1 614 t normal; 2 325 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   262,47 ft / 262,47 ft x 42,65 ft x 7,22 ft (normal load)
   80,00 m / 80,00 m x 13,00 m  x 2,20 m

Armament:
      1 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading gun in deck mount
     on centreline forward
   Weight of broadside 20 lbs / 9 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 1 880

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 272 shp / 1 695 Kw = 15,00 kts
   Range 20 400nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 600 tons

Complement:
   126 - 165

Cost:
   £0,038 million / $0,154 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 91 tons, 5,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 479 tons, 29,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 942 tons, 58,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 6,2 %
      - Space for 16 Torpedos 32 tons
      - Long range radio 25 ton
      - Infirmary & Hygiene station 30 ton
      - Water purification plant 2 ton
      - Extra food stuff & Supplies 6 ton
      - Spare parts & tools 5 ton


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 943 lbs / 3 603 Kg = 382,0 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,99
   Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 8,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,41

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,699
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16,20 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m (6,56 ft / 2,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m (6,56 ft / 2,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   9,12 ft / 2,78 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 29,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 966 Square feet or 833 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 535 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 211 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,05
      - Longitudinal: 0,98
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[The Rock Doctor]

You could probably raise the freeboard some and increase hull strength in the process, by the looks of it.

The gun might be better located aft - as she's more likely to flee than pursue.

Generally, I like her, though I'd have considered including crew quarters for improved operational mobility.

[Korpen]

You could probably raise the freeboard some and increase hull strength in the process, by the looks of it.

True, she got a bit more misc weight out of that.

The gun might be better located aft - as she's more likely to flee than pursue.[/quote]
Good point. I mainly included the gun to get the needed amount of shells.

Generally, I like her, though I'd have considered including crew quarters for improved operational mobility.

Well, if nothing else, it should be possible to string up hammocks on deck :)

Netherlands Tanker laid down 1912

Displacement:
   672 t light; 725 t standard; 1 614 t normal; 2 325 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   262,47 ft / 262,47 ft x 42,65 ft x 7,22 ft (normal load)
   80,00 m / 80,00 m x 13,00 m  x 2,20 m

Armament:
      1 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading gun in deck mount
     on centreline aft, 1 raised gun
   Weight of broadside 20 lbs / 9 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 1 880

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 271 shp / 1 694 Kw = 15,00 kts
   Range 20 410nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 600 tons

Complement:
   126 - 165

Cost:
   £0,038 million / $0,153 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 91 tons, 5,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 462 tons, 28,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 942 tons, 58,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 117 tons, 7,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 501 lbs / 3 402 Kg = 360,8 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 3,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,91
   Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 9,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,54

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,699
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16,20 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14,76 ft / 4,50 m (6,56 ft / 2,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14,76 ft / 4,50 m (6,56 ft / 2,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   9,97 ft / 3,04 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 30,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 965 Square feet or 833 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 506 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 200 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,04
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Korpen]

Two of these tanker are laid down in 1914, they are to tactically support the Wilhelmina-class frigates.

Hendrik van Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Netherlands Tanker laid down 1912

Displacement:
   4 000 t light; 4 164 t standard; 8 000 t normal; 11 069 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   492,13 ft / 492,13 ft x 52,49 ft x 16,40 ft (normal load)
   150,00 m / 150,00 m x 16,00 m  x 5,00 m

Armament:
      2 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 19,84lbs / 9,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 40 lbs / 18 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 43 400 shp / 32 376 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 38 090nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6 905 tons

Complement:
   422 - 549

Cost:
   £0,387 million / $1,546 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 1 730 tons, 21,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 074 tons, 25,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 000 tons, 50,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 2,4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14 117 lbs / 6 403 Kg = 678,9 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,84
   Metacentric height 5,1 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 9,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,661
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,38 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m (13,12 ft / 4,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   21,33 ft / 6,50 m (13,12 ft / 4,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,80 ft / 5,12 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 19 985 Square feet or 1 857 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 217 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 337 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,00
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily