Baltic Confederation Super Dreadnougth (Fleet-Flagship)

[ledeper]

General Kassar, Baltic Confederation   Super Dreadnougth (Fleet-Flagship)  laid down 1911

Displacement:
   32.016 t light; 34.319 t standard; 37.865 t normal; 40.702 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   702,44 ft / 688,98 ft x 111,55 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   214,10 m / 210,00 m x 34,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      12 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      18 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns (9x2 guns), 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      30 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18.179 lbs / 8.246 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   12,67 ft / 3,86 m
   Ends:   1,00" / 25 mm   241,12 ft / 73,49 m   12,67 ft / 3,86 m
   Upper:   5,00" / 127 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,00" / 51 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   27,10 ft / 8,26 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   4,00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm            -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4,00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 14,00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 47.747 shp / 35.619 Kw = 22,17 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.384 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.356 - 1.764

Cost:
   £3,328 million / $13,311 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.272 tons, 6,0 %
   Armour: 12.876 tons, 34,0 %
      - Belts: 4.383 tons, 11,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 898 tons, 2,4 %
      - Armament: 3.157 tons, 8,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 4.098 tons, 10,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 340 tons, 0,9 %
   Machinery: 2.132 tons, 5,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 14.237 tons, 37,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.849 tons, 15,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     53.168 lbs / 24.117 Kg = 38,8 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 9,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 8,1 ft / 2,5 m
   Roll period: 16,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,24

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,584
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,87 ft / 8,80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18,37 ft / 5,60 m (16,40 ft / 5,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,23 ft / 5,56 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 55.374 Square feet or 5.144 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs/sq ft or 973 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,20
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Tanthalas]

OUCH looks for a corner to hide in

[P3D]

You cannot have those twin 4"s on this tech level. Get more 6"s.
If all those 40mms are anti-air, than its about 10 years earlier than justified.

Reduce shells per gun.
The barbettes would be on the thin side even if they were fully covered by the upper belt, but they aren't.
The 1" end belt has no function that I can imagine.

[Korpen]

Hm, my reactions is "white elephant". She is really a bit too big, i think it would be better to build a smaller ship, this one eats up to much capacity for what she delivers.

[Ithekro]

Unless someone in Europe or near one of your colonies has a lot of airships or has developed some airplanes with bomb or torpedoes, there is no reason for such a heavy anti-air like set of batteries.  Now if you are looking at this as a heavy anti-torpedo boat battery, it is a little light (though in numbers I suppose it would be deadly) since many nations are building larger torpedo boats and destroyers.  Large numbers of 88mm would be fitting for the Baltic Confederation (or at least the German based sectors).  The large mix of 6" and 4" is not all together practical though with a hull that long I suppose a large number of casemate and dec kmounted guns could be fitted (though not in twins).

On the upper end, 150 shells is the default setting for SS2, but generally ships this size carried less because they didn't have to carry so much (if the battle went so long as their were running out, the ship was probably in trouble already) as that is 1,800 shells of 14 inch.  She'll survive longer than my 14" gun battleships, but none of them are quite so large yet.  In fact she is probably too big for what she is.  On a standard search an American Battleship with the same main armaments would be about 600 feet long and only maybe 32,000 tons normal (and several feet thinner to fit though the canal, though that shouldn't be a problem for you).

On the armor, I suppose he is correct on the usefulness (or lack of use) of the suggested items.

[Tanthalas]

I think you were most likley trying for somthing more like this (USS California clone)

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1909

Displacement:
   29,483 t light; 31,124 t standard; 32,770 t normal; 34,087 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   624.00 ft / 624.00 ft x 105.00 ft x 27.00 ft (normal load)
   190.20 m / 190.20 m x 32.00 m  x 8.23 m

Armament:
      12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1,372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      20 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1909 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 17,522 lbs / 7,948 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   339.21 ft / 103.39 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   7.00" / 178 mm   284.77 ft / 86.80 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   339.21 ft / 103.39 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 84 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   339.21 ft / 103.39 m   28.48 ft / 8.68 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      14.0" / 356 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 31,342 shp / 23,381 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,962 tons (70% coal)

Complement:
   1,217 - 1,583

Cost:
   £3.085 million / $12.339 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,190 tons, 6.7 %
   Armour: 12,198 tons, 37.2 %
      - Belts: 5,104 tons, 15.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 536 tons, 1.6 %
      - Armament: 3,468 tons, 10.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,781 tons, 8.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 309 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,521 tons, 4.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,373 tons, 40.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,287 tons, 10.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     48,335 lbs / 21,925 Kg = 35.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 8.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 17.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.648
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.94 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.98 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forecastle (23 %):   24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Mid (50 %):      24.00 ft / 7.32 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (23 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.27 ft / 6.18 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 50,116 Square feet or 4,656 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 204 lbs/sq ft or 998 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.37
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

I originaly pland to use this as my fleet flagship backed up by 9 gun versions.  then i realised i couldnt afford to build them so i went down to 12" ships

[ledeper]

General Kassar, Baltic Confederation  Dreadnougth laid down 1909

Displacement:
   25.620 t light; 27.298 t standard; 30.700 t normal; 33.421 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   702,44 ft / 688,98 ft x 91,86 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
   214,10 m / 210,00 m x 28,00 m  x 9,00 m

Armament:
      8 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      10 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      20 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 12.472 lbs / 5.657 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   11,50 ft / 3,51 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   241,12 ft / 73,49 m   11,50 ft / 3,51 m
   Upper:   6,00" / 152 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   0,00 ft / 0,00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,00" / 51 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   27,10 ft / 8,26 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   4,00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4,00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 14,00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 45.797 shp / 34.165 Kw = 22,85 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.123 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.159 - 1.507

Cost:
   £2,527 million / $10,107 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.559 tons, 5,1 %
   Armour: 10.387 tons, 33,8 %
      - Belts: 3.302 tons, 10,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 898 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 2.545 tons, 8,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 3.346 tons, 10,9 %
      - Conning Tower: 296 tons, 1,0 %
   Machinery: 2.290 tons, 7,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.034 tons, 35,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.080 tons, 16,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     43.602 lbs / 19.778 Kg = 31,8 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 7,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 5,3 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 16,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 67 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,575
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,87 ft / 8,80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Stern:      18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,21 ft / 5,86 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 136,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 45.217 Square feet or 4.201 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 846 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,19
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[maddox]

Things I see

Upper belt is 0.

The 2" ends is at best a splinter catcher.

4" deck armor is thick for this age.

and she's long and very narrow

[Sachmle]

Things I see

Upper belt is 0.

The 2" ends is at best a splinter catcher.

4" deck armor is thick for this age.

and she's long and very narrow

1. True
2. Even truer (is "truer" a word?) :)
3. True, but is his money to waste.
4. Not so much, Iowa' L/B ratio was 7.96, is only 7.50 here.

[Walter]

1) Reminds me of the 17.7mm torpedoes. :)
3) It is and it eats hull strength.
4) I don't think Iowa is a good example. One should look at something that fits better with the era... Like Agincourt (~7.5:1). Of course there are also a bunch of BCs with high L:B ratios (Kongo (~7.6:1), Repulse/Renown (~8.7:1), Queen Mary (~8.2:1), etc).

[The Rock Doctor]

From a "Impress the Neighbours" point of view, the original 4x3 design will be more successful than the smaller 4x2 design.

I recall a generalization that upper belts ought to be around half the thickness of the main belt, and end belts ought to be a third the thickness of the main belt. 

I agree on the matter of deck thickness.

I'd suggest making the secondary battery ~14-16 6" guns, at the expense of smaller guns and/or deck armor.  The Baltic is supposedly good torpedo-boat territory due to its geography and weather, so you'd want a heavy punch to deal with that threat.

[ledeper]

General Kassar, Baltic Confederation   Super Dreadnougth (Fleet-Flagship) laid down 1911

Displacement:
   27.174 t light; 28.978 t standard; 32.198 t normal; 34.773 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   702,44 ft / 688,98 ft x 98,43 ft x 27,56 ft (normal load)
   214,10 m / 210,00 m x 30,00 m  x 8,40 m

Armament:
      9 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      26 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      20 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 13.596 lbs / 6.167 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Ends:   3,00" / 76 mm   241,12 ft / 73,49 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Upper:   6,00" / 152 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,00" / 51 mm   447,83 ft / 136,50 m   25,30 ft / 7,71 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   4,00" / 102 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 3,00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 14,00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 47.783 shp / 35.646 Kw = 22,80 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5.796 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.201 - 1.562

Cost:
   £2,677 million / $10,709 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.699 tons, 5,3 %
   Armour: 10.877 tons, 33,8 %
      - Belts: 4.484 tons, 13,9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 838 tons, 2,6 %
      - Armament: 2.489 tons, 7,7 %
      - Armour Deck: 2.760 tons, 8,6 %
      - Conning Tower: 305 tons, 0,9 %
   Machinery: 2.133 tons, 6,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11.964 tons, 37,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.024 tons, 15,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     48.948 lbs / 22.202 Kg = 35,7 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 8,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 6,6 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 16,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 67 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,34

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,87 ft / 8,80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Stern:      18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,21 ft / 5,86 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 49.736 Square feet or 4.621 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 179 lbs/sq ft or 876 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,16
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Sachmle]

Armament:
      9 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      26 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      20 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 13.596 lbs / 6.167 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Sorry for beating you to the punch Borys but,  WAY TO MANY GUNS. There's no way that secondary and tertiary would never fit even as long as she is. Also, 150 shells is to much for the MB try 70-90.

[ledeper]

General Kassar, Baltic Confederation Super Dreadnougth laid down 1911

Displacement:
   22.544 t light; 23.873 t standard; 26.757 t normal; 29.064 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   553,46 ft / 541,34 ft x 95,14 ft x 27,89 ft (normal load)
   168,69 m / 165,00 m x 29,00 m  x 8,50 m

Armament:
      9 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 12.860 lbs / 5.833 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   351,87 ft / 107,25 m   11,71 ft / 3,57 m
   Ends:   3,00" / 76 mm   189,45 ft / 57,74 m   11,71 ft / 3,57 m
   Upper:   6,00" / 152 mm   351,87 ft / 107,25 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2,00" / 51 mm   351,87 ft / 107,25 m   26,87 ft / 8,19 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14,0" / 356 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   4,00" / 102 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 3,00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 14,00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 47.199 shp / 35.210 Kw = 22,75 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5.191 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.045 - 1.359

Cost:
   £2,434 million / $9,737 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.608 tons, 6,0 %
   Armour: 8.967 tons, 33,5 %
      - Belts: 3.568 tons, 13,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 700 tons, 2,6 %
      - Armament: 2.235 tons, 8,4 %
      - Armour Deck: 2.194 tons, 8,2 %
      - Conning Tower: 270 tons, 1,0 %
   Machinery: 2.107 tons, 7,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9.363 tons, 35,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.213 tons, 15,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33.079 lbs / 15.004 Kg = 24,1 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 5,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
   Metacentric height 5,9 ft / 1,8 m
   Roll period: 16,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,49
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,69 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,27 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25,98 ft / 7,92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16,54 ft / 5,04 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16,54 ft / 5,04 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16,54 ft / 5,04 m
      - Stern:      16,54 ft / 5,04 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,29 ft / 5,27 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 39.528 Square feet or 3.672 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 178 lbs/sq ft or 872 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,57
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

[Ithekro]

Actually the number of guns was not that far off normal for the time.  12 - 16 x 6" or maybe 16 - 18 x 4" either with 14 - 16 x 88mm (or whatever quickfire you deem appropreate for use against torpedo boats) would be about normal.