Peruvian pocket Battleship

Started by asavery, November 01, 2007, 11:05:31 AM

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asavery

Yet another first cut for my initial fleet.  I'll probably only have one or two to start with, but would be state-of-the-art.  Not intended to be the biggest or baddest on the block, but be fast with a decent punch and protection.  I was aiming for a <18K full displacement design.  Comments/suggestion?   

Lima-class, Peru Battleship laid down 1905 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   13,352 t light; 14,185 t standard; 16,299 t normal; 17,990 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   498.00 ft / 498.00 ft x 79.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   151.79 m / 151.79 m x 24.08 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns in single mounts, 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,760 lbs / 2,613 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   323.70 ft / 98.66 m   10.67 ft / 3.25 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   174.28 ft / 53.12 m   10.67 ft / 3.25 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   323.70 ft / 98.66 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   323.70 ft / 98.66 m   23.35 ft / 7.12 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   12.0" / 305 mm         -         6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42,426 shp / 31,650 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,805 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   720 - 937

Cost:
   £1.369 million / $5.476 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 720 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 5,438 tons, 33.4 %
      - Belts: 2,907 tons, 17.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 559 tons, 3.4 %
      - Armament: 1,077 tons, 6.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 784 tons, 4.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 111 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 2,121 tons, 13.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,048 tons, 31.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,947 tons, 18.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 0.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18,722 lbs / 8,492 Kg = 21.7 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.00
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 17.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 97 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.580
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 90
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.55 ft / 7.48 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   15.62 ft / 4.76 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15.62 ft / 4.76 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.62 ft / 4.76 m
      - Stern:      15.62 ft / 4.76 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.33 ft / 4.98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 28,240 Square feet or 2,624 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 624 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.51
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Borys

Ahoj!
Needs a little work. I suggest trading "fire platform" for stability. 1,10 should be minimum considered for a vessel that is planned to take damage when slugging it out.

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Desertfox

Aeiii!!!! Constitution Clone!

Constitution class, New Switzerland Battlecruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
  14,724 t light; 15,473 t standard; 18,183 t normal; 20,351 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  550.00 ft / 550.00 ft x 70.00 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
  167.64 m / 167.64 m x 21.34 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
     4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 900.00lbs / 408.23kg shells, 1901 Model
    Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
    on centreline ends, evenly spread
     12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1901 Model
    Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
    on side, evenly spread
     12 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1901 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (2x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1901 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1901 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread
  Weight of broadside 5,424 lbs / 2,460 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
  Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
  Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
  Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   250.00 ft / 76.20 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
    Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
  Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
  2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
  Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
  Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42,262 shp / 31,527 Kw = 24.00 kts
  Range 12,000nm at 10.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 4,878 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
  782 - 1,017

Cost:
  £1.563 million / $6.251 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 660 tons, 3.6 %
  Armour: 4,746 tons, 26.1 %
     - Belts: 2,161 tons, 11.9 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 1,006 tons, 5.5 %
     - Armour Deck: 1,519 tons, 8.4 %
     - Conning Tower: 60 tons, 0.3 %
  Machinery: 3,522 tons, 19.4 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,676 tons, 31.2 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,459 tons, 19.0 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    20,290 lbs / 9,203 Kg = 23.5 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
  Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.3 m
  Roll period: 14.5 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has a flush deck
  Block coefficient: 0.570
  Length to Beam Ratio: 7.86 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 23.45 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
     - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
     - Stern:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
     - Average freeboard:   20.83 ft / 6.35 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.6 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.9 %
  Waterplane Area: 27,378 Square feet or 2,543 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 625 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.93
     - Longitudinal: 1.83
     - Overall: 1.00
  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
  Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
  Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

Borys

Ahoj!
I have to admit I find the Contitution superior. That 1,500 tonnes difference was put to good use by the Swiss. Buy Swiss design for 2$?
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Borys

#4
Ahoj!
Hmm, looking at the armour, the Swiss ship is closer to an armoured cruiser than battleship. Whereas the Peruvian ship is nicely armoured.
Now, it is up to you, to go the OTL route of South American warships - overgunned and underarmoured (here with bonus of grat seaworthiness and speed). Or cut back speed to 21-22 knots and invest in seaeeping.

Both routes are viable.

The Swiss ship allows Peru to catch (!) raiding cruisers off its shores.

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Tanthalas

or you could just modify my 10" cruisers.  (and they have the added benifit of being CHEAP)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

P3D

For building, we consider light displacement. Armor deck should be around 2", I'd also try to get one more knot out of the 48000SHP available.

Trim is excessive, I usually try to have it between 40 and 60.
The 8"s should be in twin turrets on barbettes.
I'd aim for a length:beam ratio of 7:1 for a 24-25kts ship. That would also help with SHP.
Main length should also increased to cover machinery and engineering spaces. Belt height also increased to 12-13' looking at the current freeboard. Keep the upper belt at 8", that's a usual distance for the one deck height the upper belt should cover.

The ship that way might be a bit huge for your small capacity. Keeping 24kts speed would help keep the cost down.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

The Rock Doctor

The original design could, if necessary, go toe-to-toe with a semi-dread or pre-dread and possibly win.  Connie's armor lacks a bit in that respect, and the Italian cruisers aren't up to that task.  

I'd add more miscellaneous weight than you have, asavery:  as the largest ships in you fleet, you'll want wireless, flag facilities, torpedo weight, a growth margin, and maybe stuff like VIP quarters.  

Desertfox

Actually the Constitutions have withstood battledamage quite well. Constitution herself came whitin an inch of blowing up Schanhorts. Only bad luck allowed Schanhorts to escape.
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

asavery

Ok, here is my second cut based on the comments.  As the initial set up is on light displacement I have a little more freedom.

Lima-class, Peru Battleship laid down 1905 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   15,861 t light; 16,750 t standard; 19,099 t normal; 20,978 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   544.00 ft / 544.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   165.81 m / 165.81 m x 24.38 m  x 7.32 m

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (4x2 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,760 lbs / 2,613 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   10.73 ft / 3.27 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   190.38 ft / 58.03 m   10.73 ft / 3.27 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   22.97 ft / 7.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 47,993 shp / 35,803 Kw = 24.25 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,228 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   812 - 1,056

Cost:
   £1.496 million / $5.984 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 720 tons, 3.8 %
   Armour: 6,339 tons, 33.2 %
      - Belts: 3,177 tons, 16.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 601 tons, 3.1 %
      - Armament: 1,216 tons, 6.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,222 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 123 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2,400 tons, 12.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,202 tons, 32.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,238 tons, 17.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     25,522 lbs / 11,576 Kg = 29.5 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 15.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.640
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m (16.33 ft / 4.98 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Stern:      16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.46 ft / 5.32 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,034 Square feet or 3,069 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 664 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Borys

Ahoj!
The default setting - 150 main calibre shells, is appropriate for cruisers. It is too high for battleships. Here, 80-120 is the suitable range.

The Command Tower should be 12 inches too. We can't get the admiral killed, can we?

I consider End Belts thicker than 4 inches to be a waste of steel, but that may be only me.

Main Gun barbettes should be 9 inches minimum, 10 inches is still skimpish, 11 inches is adequate, 12 inches best.

Cruising speed 15 knots is not approprate for this era. Please set 10 or 12.

Stability, Fireplatform, Seakeeping - I consider the mix to be OK .

Borys


NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

P3D

Cut speed to 24.00 knots.

I calculate effective barbette thickness as barbette+Upper belt/2 if the cover is adequate. Increase  main belt height to 12'. Cut torpedo bulkhead thickness to 1.5".
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

asavery

Ok, trying again...  with the exception ot the caliber mentioned by Boyrs, I think I have addressed most of the comments...

Lima-class, Peru Battleship laid down 1905 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   15,950 t light; 16,821 t standard; 18,204 t normal; 19,310 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   544.00 ft / 544.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   165.81 m / 165.81 m x 24.38 m  x 7.32 m

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (4x2 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5,760 lbs / 2,613 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   190.38 ft / 58.03 m   10.73 ft / 3.27 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   353.60 ft / 107.78 m   22.63 ft / 6.90 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   9.00" / 229 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 44,169 shp / 32,950 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,490 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   783 - 1,018

Cost:
   £1.472 million / $5.889 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 720 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 6,639 tons, 36.5 %
      - Belts: 3,408 tons, 18.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 444 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 1,419 tons, 7.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,189 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 179 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,208 tons, 12.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,182 tons, 34.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,254 tons, 12.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     24,398 lbs / 11,067 Kg = 28.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.610
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m (16.33 ft / 4.98 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Stern:      16.33 ft / 4.98 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.38 ft / 5.30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,128 Square feet or 2,985 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 139 lbs/sq ft or 678 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

asavery

While I'm at it, the cruiser designed to go with it...

Junin-class, Peru Cruiser laid down 1905 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   9,196 t light; 9,714 t standard; 10,705 t normal; 11,498 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   475.00 ft / 475.00 ft x 72.50 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
   144.78 m / 144.78 m x 22.10 m  x 6.10 m

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns in single mounts, 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns in single mounts, 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3,328 lbs / 1,510 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   308.75 ft / 94.11 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   166.23 ft / 50.67 m   10.22 ft / 3.12 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   308.75 ft / 94.11 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.00" / 25 mm   308.75 ft / 94.11 m   18.48 ft / 5.63 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm            -
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -               -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 32,821 shp / 24,484 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,784 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   526 - 684

Cost:
   £0.901 million / $3.604 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 416 tons, 3.9 %
   Armour: 3,617 tons, 33.8 %
      - Belts: 1,970 tons, 18.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 211 tons, 2.0 %
      - Armament: 488 tons, 4.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 884 tons, 8.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,641 tons, 15.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,479 tons, 32.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,509 tons, 14.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 43 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,298 lbs / 6,485 Kg = 55.8 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.544
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.55 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.79 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 76
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m (15.26 ft / 4.65 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      15.26 ft / 4.65 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.26 ft / 4.65 m
      - Stern:      15.26 ft / 4.65 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.13 ft / 4.92 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,899 Square feet or 2,220 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 513 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.33
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

P3D

Back to the battleship.

IMO get range up to 6000-8000@12. Increase draught by 2'. That would decrease cost a bit.

Cruiser: Use turrets on barbettes, and less armor.
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