My latest creation...(que evil laughter)

[Sachmle]

As the recently commsioned VdM is roughly the size of an OTL USN AC I have decided against laying down a sister ship.  I have instead layed down a more ambitious design which had been considered but not followed up.  This new BB, which should be in service in 2nd HY 1910, will be longer, stronger, and without further ado, I give you......

Nueve de Julio, NUS Battleship laid down 1908 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   14,600 t light; 15,632 t standard; 17,638 t normal; 19,243 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   515.00 ft / 515.00 ft x 74.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   156.97 m / 156.97 m x 22.56 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     16 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 7,257 lbs / 3,292 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   8.00" / 203 mm   180.00 ft / 54.86 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   10.0" / 254 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20,033 shp / 14,944 Kw = 19.54 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,611 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   764 - 994

Cost:
   £1.507 million / $6.027 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 907 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 6,391 tons, 36.2 %
      - Belts: 3,795 tons, 21.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,342 tons, 7.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,078 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 175 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,669 tons, 9.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,568 tons, 31.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,038 tons, 17.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 65 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22,776 lbs / 10,331 Kg = 26.4 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.60

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.648
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.69 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (30 %):   25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Mid (40 %):      25.00 ft / 7.62 m (14.00 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.40 ft / 5.61 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 29,140 Square feet or 2,707 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 643 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

I admit she's a little slow, but speed is not my top priority with BBs, so I'm content with 19.56kts.

[The Rock Doctor]

I was expecting something evil to go with that evil laughter.  Where's the evil?

[Sachmle]

Just going with a Halloween theme.  If you need evil look towards the Pacific...

[Borys]

Ahoj!
4 feet of the MG barbettes are not covered by upper belt. Apart from that it's OK.

Borys

[Sachmle]

Lowered freeboard slightly on the forcastle and increased barbette armor 2"

Nueve de Julio, NUS Battleship laid down 1908 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   14,600 t light; 15,632 t standard; 17,638 t normal; 19,243 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   515.00 ft / 515.00 ft x 74.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   156.97 m / 156.97 m x 22.56 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     16 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
      10 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 7,257 lbs / 3,292 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   8.00" / 203 mm   180.00 ft / 54.86 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   10.0" / 254 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         3.00" / 76 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20,033 shp / 14,944 Kw = 19.54 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,611 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   764 - 994

Cost:
   £1.507 million / $6.027 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 907 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 6,439 tons, 36.5 %
      - Belts: 3,795 tons, 21.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,390 tons, 7.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,078 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 175 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,669 tons, 9.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,520 tons, 31.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,038 tons, 17.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 65 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22,287 lbs / 10,109 Kg = 25.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.58

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.648
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.69 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.50 ft / 7.47 m
      - Forecastle (33 %):   24.50 ft / 7.47 m
      - Mid (40 %):      24.50 ft / 7.47 m (14.00 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.20 ft / 5.55 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 29,140 Square feet or 2,707 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 639 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.49
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[maddox]

It is always an option to shop around for the better stuff.
Bigger Main Guns for example.
France sold, and still is offering the 340mm L40 guns to all who are interested. Even in twin turrets. A few 350mm versions are sold too.

On the other hand, France bought 30 1909 tech 12000 Hp turbines from the UNK,and is using these to build newer Battleships and armored cruisers.

[olekit]

(while it's coming a deep night at Russia) We can offer you 356/45 guns.... in triple turrets ts! ::)

[The Rock Doctor]

I think I'd reduce the end and upper belt armor a bit, to expand the main belt and/or turret armor. 

No torpedo bulkhead?