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Tanthalas

the fact that you have to train your officers?  I just thought of it, so i poresent... a Gunery trainer

Italia TC-1905, Italia Training Cruiser laid down 1905

Displacement:
   1,694 t light; 1,942 t standard; 2,000 t normal; 2,047 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   200.00 ft / 200.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)
   60.96 m / 60.96 m x 18.29 m  x 3.66 m

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (2x2 guns), 500.00lbs / 226.80kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (1x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on side
   Weight of broadside 2,402 lbs / 1,090 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   1 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 567 ihp / 423 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 105 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   149 - 194

Cost:
   £0.323 million / $1.291 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 300 tons, 15.0 %
   Armour: 68 tons, 3.4 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 68 tons, 3.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 80 tons, 4.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,206 tons, 60.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 306 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 2.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,303 lbs / 591 Kg = 2.6 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 13.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.486
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.14 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.56 ft / 4.74 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   9.90 ft / 3.02 m
      - Mid (50 %):      9.90 ft / 3.02 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9.90 ft / 3.02 m
      - Stern:      9.90 ft / 3.02 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.35 ft / 3.16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 134.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 7,571 Square feet or 703 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 74 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 125 lbs/sq ft or 610 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.84
      - Longitudinal: 4.54
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

The Rock Doctor

Gran Colombia retains an ex-ACM battleship and an ex-IC armored cruiser for this purpose.

I like the idea, but think she'd be rather crowded above-deck.  Perhaps consider dumping one of the two big turrets, and adding some armor - then she can double as a monitor during military operations.