Fractions

[miketr]

I would suggest the 0.5 BP cost $170 or $175 with a cost efficiency of 2.941 or 2.857 tons of production per $1.  In the end I suspect people will only build the 0.25 factories or whole ones and not the 0.5 at all but I could be wrong.

They couldn't.
You'd have to build up to a .5 BP factory before you got the 1 BP factory... unless you could put $200 into that .25 BP factory all at once- and I think that only the MK can do that so far.

This idea wouldn't of the finishing the factory suggestion but instead treating the 3 sizes as seperate factories.

Michael
 

[P3D]

Should rather be three different sizes.
0.25BP - $100
0.5BP - $180
1BP - $300

$1 is available for research for every odd BP - 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 etc.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
I liked the 100, 200 and 300 prices for their simplicity.
OK with research.

Now, back to IC fractions ... EVIL SMILE

Is there a majority forming for going with the original rules, i.e. not using 0,74 IC after paying c.55$ for it?

Next question:
I have 3,3 million people and 4IC. Do I get 7,6$, or do I get 7$? Although I prefer 7$, for simplicity, I can play both ways.
Borys

[Korpen]

Should rather be three different sizes.
0.25BP - $100
0.5BP - $180
1BP - $300

$1 is available for research for every odd BP - 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 etc.

I must say I am dead against having different types of BP sources.  That Just reinforce a BP as single massive factory complex, rather then a messurement of the capacity of the industry in general it has been so far.

The $100 25%, $200 50% and $300 100% Is simple and should work quite nice.

[The Rock Doctor]

By my reckoning you get $3.30 + $4.00 = $7.30.

I bank with dollars and cents, rounding to the nearest cent in rare cases where that's necessary.  

In a case like P3D citing research limits, I assume $1 = $1.00.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Me wrong, 7,3 is a possibility, not 7,6.
Borys, who thinks an E- in math is a good grade

[The Rock Doctor]

Well, it could conceivably be worse.

Did I mention my getting 22% in first-year calculus?  Thank god there are no integrals in our rule set.

[Carthaginian]

The $100 25%, $200 50% and $300 100% Is simple and should work quite nice.

I agree... I prefer this for the sheer simplicity of it as well.
Payin 1/3 of the price for 1/4 of the capability and 2/3 of the price for 1/2 the capability is simple enough math-wise and penalty enough economy-wise.

We don't need algebra in every rule. :(

[Desertfox]

One other thing I wanted to bring up. How about increasing costs for BPS and ICs after a certain point? I know its a bit unrealistic but it levels the field and gives smaller countries a chance, otherwise the bigger countries will just run off, its happened in Wesworld.

Something like this:

After 20BP/120IC, BPs cost $400, IC $100. After 30BP/150IC, BPs, cost $500, IC $125. Etc...

[Walter]

Is there a majority forming for going with the original rules, i.e. not using 0,74 IC after paying c.55$ for it?

I think the total a nation has should be whole ICs. However it should be possible to split up the IC among the regions of your empire. As I see it, it is one of a couple of aspects that determines a nation's economy. It is more realistic to build up all the regions at once little bit by little bit rather (with some a bit more than others) than build up region after region in 1 IC steps. After all you're not going to spend all your money to improve Florida in Year A, then California in year B, then Maine in year C, etc until all 50 states are done after 50 years and then start all over with Florida.

I bank with dollars and cents, rounding to the nearest cent in rare cases where that's necessary.

I do it pretty much the same, although with my spreadsheet there are a few more decimals present (especially with the warship upkeep which sometimes have 5-6 decimals for a ship).

Borys, who thinks an E- in math is a good grade

The 'E' of 'Excellent'. :D

[Borys]

It is more realistic to build up all the regions at once little bit by little bit rather (with some a bit more than others) than build up region after region in 1 IC steps. After all you're not going to spend all your money to improve Florida in Year A, then California in year B, then Maine in year C, etc until all 50 states are done after 50 years and then start all over with Florida.

Here I am ready to throw realism out of the window and go for simplicity.
Borys

[The Rock Doctor]

Indeed.  If the good citizens of Bogota have a problem with me investing heavily in Amazonas del Sur, they can talk to the gentlemen in the straw hats.

[P3D]

If you want fractional BP (=small factories), then you have to pay more.
You cannot cast iron in an empty factory building. It won't produce anything until all the necessary equipment is in place.

[Borys]

If you want fractional BP (=small factories), then you have to pay more.
You cannot cast iron in an empty factory building. It won't produce anything until all the necessary equipment is in place.

Vee ar happy to pay more. And zet is vot vee do veef
0.25BP - $100
0.5BP - $200
1BP - $300

Borys

[swamphen]

This Complete Mathmatical Moron™ finds his eyes starting to glaze over...

A .25BP factory doesn't necessarily cast iron. (For instance, 250 tons is the correct size for the Deutenden Stock).

Personally if we're going to change the rules I think the 100-200-300 suggestion is best (he says modestly). As for IC - I agree that it should be the whole nation's IC has to be a round number while subnational units can meet The Denominator.